re: Do you consider Texas to be a "southern" state?

Influenced by a few drinks, I've got some cloudy judgment here: Is that " " sarcastic? I actually dug Addison because of this awesome Aviation museum they had. Place is pretty nice, while not too big or anything. Also, tons o' babes at this pub I stopped in at.

Dude, I would love to. The game today pissed me off, though. Bass looked solid, but the offense refused to bail him out.

The deep South: Louisiana Mississippi, Alabama

The South: Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Tennessee, Kentucky, etc..

Texas is the west

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Texas is the west

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Texas is too large to be simply one thing. It sits astride a few lines of climate and culture.

East Texas, in terms of climate, foliage, demographics, and culture is the south.

If you go west of 45, you enter the Post Oak Savannah and the people and foliage change. This is Cattle Ranch Country. It's whiter, there are less trees, the accents are less pronounced.

You go north to the Metroplex/North Texas and in terms of geography and climate you are in Oklahoma/Kansas, but in terms of demographics and culture you have a pronounced East Texas influence.

From San Antonio on south you are in northern Mexico in terms of climate, foliage, demographics, and culture.

West of Ft. Worth is the American southwest in all its depressing desert moonscape glory and huge, empty spaces.

Texas is not a southern state. It has it's own identity.

Hence, the term Texans. Native Texans do not consider themselves part of the south or a southerner. They are Texans.

Yeah and if you go south of Florida your in Cuba, where the frick are you going with that statement?

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Geographically - yes. Culturally - no.

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Born and raised East Texan and man I disagree. Not only is ETx redneck as Alabama, much of the state is as well. The only difference between Texas and other "southern" states is it's population and size. Pack everyone into a state the size of Mississippi and it's all out chaos. Teeth, obesity, welfare, mobile homes, the whole 9. Thank God Texas has square mileage is all I have to say.

Some Errors with the map

Virginia - I live in Virginia its not southern anymore. If you are going to try it make it southern, you need to cut off everything east of Richmond (Including Richmond), Northern Virginia, and Random college towns in Virginia to make that case.

Kentucky- It felt more like Southern Ohio than any Southern State I have been too.

West Virginia- No way


My Personal Definition is what the south includes- North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Florida panhandle, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, and Tennessee.

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South Florida is essentially a Yankee outpost.

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Once you leave the Panhandle and head south down the either coastline, FL transforms itself and becomes the southernmost point of either "Up East" (Atlantic side) or the Midwest (Gulf side). Whatever native Floridians (with drawls) as there may be, are situated inland.