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re: Disney's ABC is pulling Jimmy Kimmel indefinitely after Charlie Kirk comments (update)
Posted on 9/19/25 at 8:54 am to Dire Wolf
Posted on 9/19/25 at 8:54 am to Dire Wolf
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we are in a never ending escalation of seeding power to the executive branch
Yes. Blame Obama.
Thats who your angst is with
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Posted on 9/19/25 at 8:58 am to RogerTheShrubber
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No, but thats how we got here and will continue to operate. That door isnt going to close itself.
Democrats arent going to change.
Yep, the current options are to fight fire with fire or not play the game by the current rules and be trampled on like we were from 2015ish til recently. frick that.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 9:00 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Yes. Blame Obama.
Thats who your angst is with
shite i blame FDR
and Clinton/republican congress who passed Telecommunications Act of 1996 that has fostered the consolidation of our media to the point where they are so worried about anti-trust suits that they have suck the D of who ever is in office
Posted on 9/19/25 at 9:02 am to Dire Wolf
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shite i blame FDR
shite, lets throw in Wilson, the "Progressive."
The system is broken, I dont know any other way to describe it. Its well known I'm no Trump fan, but he's just doing what predecessors have done here.
DC is just lost and out of control. The illusion of the public being in charge is beyond laughable.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 9:12 am to LNCHBOX
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Sounds an awful lot like Biden telling Ukraine to ditch the prosecutor, and I'm told there was absolutely nothing wrong with that.
Not by me. That was bullshite too.
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The bottom line is what actually happened was Kimmel said something dumb, his employers have him a chance to salvage it, and he doubled down. He played the stupidest of games and won the prize. No gov necessary.
I’d love it if the FCC didn’t make the threat though to leave no doubt that what you said above is the sole reason. It very well could be the only reason, but the waters have been muddied.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 9:16 am to Corinthians420
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Either way Kimmel isnt stating that the shooter was a leftist or maga. He is simply describing the actions of that group while making no assertions of his own.
If we assume for the sake of argument that you are correct here, then, my retort is that Kimmel was fired for being incomprehensible, which is a fireable offense for an employee whose job description demands that he be comprehensible.
And you yourself have admitted that he was not clear, or that he was misunderstood or something like that, which are just a different way to say that he was incomprehensible on a very important point of fact, which, as I say, is a fireable offense.
This post was edited on 9/19/25 at 9:17 am
Posted on 9/19/25 at 9:24 am to SUB
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I’d love it if the FCC didn’t make the threat though to leave no doubt that what you said above is the sole reason. It very well could be the only reason, but the waters have been muddied.
Is there a reason we can't take a left leaning company at their word? If they were truly feeling pressure from Trump's gov, don't you think they'd rather push back on that?
Posted on 9/19/25 at 9:48 am to LNCHBOX
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Is there a reason we can't take a left leaning company at their word?
Are you seriously asking if we should take a huge corporation, even a left leaning one, at their word? Come on, baw. When has that ever been the norm, at least for objectively minded people?
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If they were truly feeling pressure from Trump's gov, don't you think they'd rather push back on that?
If it would end up causing them to dump more money into what in all likelihood is a money pit, probably not. That's why I'm saying that the waters are now muddied now. For the life of me, I don't know why these networks have felt that it is worthwhile to keep these late night shows on air when they know they are only costing them money...but they are still doing it (at least ABC and NBC) for whatever reason. The decision by ABC to suspend Kimmel's show is likely a combination of it losing money and the threat of having to spend more money defending its right to be on air against hte FCC. If Kimmel was some huge money maker for them, they may actually stand their ground here.
Further, if they cancel Kimmel but say it was because the FCC's threat, then that just puts a target on their back for the future.
This post was edited on 9/19/25 at 9:49 am
Posted on 9/19/25 at 9:49 am to LNCHBOX
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Is there a reason we can't take a left leaning company at their word? If they were truly feeling pressure from Trump's gov, don't you think they'd rather push back on that?
We don't have to take ABC or Disney at their word. The FCC Commissioner told us.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 9:51 am to SUB
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Are you seriously asking if we should take a huge corporation, even a left leaning one, at their word? Come on, baw.
Yes, why would they hold water for Trump?
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If Kimmel was some huge money maker for them, they may actually stand their ground here.
You get the reason this is happening, you just can't admit that this is teh sole reason
ABC/Disney is not helping Trump 
Posted on 9/19/25 at 9:52 am to UpToPar
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The FCC Commissioner told us.
He most certainly didn't, but glad you're back for day 2 of you're "I'm wrong" tour
Posted on 9/19/25 at 9:54 am to Champagne
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If we assume for the sake of argument that you are correct here, then, my retort is that Kimmel was fired for being incomprehensible, which is a fireable offense for an employee whose job description demands that he be comprehensible.
And you yourself have admitted that he was not clear, or that he was misunderstood or something like that, which are just a different way to say that he was incomprehensible on a very important point of fact, which, as I say, is a fireable offense.
I do think it is important to note that Kimmel chose those specific words for a reason. He hates conservatives. He could have easily said that MAGA folks were "blaming the left." That would have been crystal clear. Instead he chose "blaming anyone but their own." It was a weird way to phrase it and he had to have known that it could be interpreted the way that it inevitably was.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 9:55 am to LNCHBOX
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He most certainly didn't
These are his words:
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"Look, we can do this the easy way or the hard way. These companies can find ways to change conduct, to take action, frankly, on Kimmel, or, you know, there's going to be additional work for the FCC ahead."
Posted on 9/19/25 at 9:57 am to SUB
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It was a weird way to phrase it
No it wasn't. He said exactly what he wanted to because he's a fricking hack and didn't think he'd get blowback for it. We know this because he doubled down, getting himself suspended.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 9:58 am to UpToPar
Those words still don't say what you wish them to.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 9:59 am to LNCHBOX
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Those words still don't say what you wish them to.
This is not a surprising take from someone with the reading comprehension skills of a 4th grader.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 9:59 am to UpToPar
Posted on 9/19/25 at 10:06 am to LNCHBOX
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Yes, why would they hold water for Trump?
It's not "holding water for Trump." As I said at the bottom of my last post. If they attack Trump / The FCC and blame them for forcing their hand to suspend Kimmel, what good does that do ABC? Maybe they'd get public support, but it'd also put a target on their back for other shows, would it not? That's more $$ they'd have to spend.
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You get the reason this is happening, you just can't admit that this is teh sole reason ABC/Disney is not helping Trump
If the FCC was not a factor, there would be no reason to "stand their ground." That was my point. They may have been fine with keeping Kimmel's show going, even at a loss, as they have been ok doing for years.
I don't think anyone can say with 100% confidence that this was solely a decision to cut the show because ABC didn't like what Kimmel said and because the show has been performing poorly. I'm willing to say though that it's definitely a factor...probably the biggest factor, in why they chose to do what they did.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 10:07 am to SUB
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It's not "holding water for Trump."
How would it not be? Covering for him suppressing speech would absolutely be that.
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If the FCC was not a factor, there would be no reason to "stand their ground."
So public outcry played no factor in your opinion? Is the FCC involved with all these other firings as well? Or is your argument wildly inconsistent?
Posted on 9/19/25 at 10:09 am to SUB
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That was the same day the show was pulled.
Did the FCC take legal action? It doesn’t appear that way. The head did say that they were pursuing ways to do something. What exactly do you think he meant by “the hard way” or “the easy way”? Can that not be interpreted as him signaling to ABC to do something about it themselves or the FCC will take action?
This is all speculation, just like with Colbert. But I would rather the FCC head not do something like this…
100%. ABC had plenty of reason to pull Kimmel without the FCC getting involved. Carr's statement unnecessarily provides the left with another talking point.
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