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Difference between MRI/MRA and CT/A

Posted on 8/1/19 at 7:19 am
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
35061 posts
Posted on 8/1/19 at 7:19 am
Not sure if there are any Doctors or Radiologist on here, but im at a fork in the road on my diagnosis for pain below my left clavicle. Its an aching dull pain that ive had for a few years and dont know if its thoracic outlet or something different.

Ive had X rays and they were normal, and i saw a Rheumatologist and she ordered me to have a MRI and a MRA on my left chest.

I told my Neurologist that and he wants to do a CT/A instead. They setup the appointment and then told me it would be $1,400!

I cant do that right now so im wondering how different the MRI/MRA is than the CT/A and can i just do those through the Rheumatologist instead since they are cheaper? Do they give similar results?
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 8/1/19 at 7:25 am to
I guess they have no idea whats going on and they are trying to rule out every obscure thing including thoracic outlet syndrome and Paget-Schrötter. This is what a lot of doctors do now, just keep ordering expensive tests for vague symptoms.

You prob just need a regular shoulder MRI to start off
Posted by FAP SAM
Member since Sep 2014
3263 posts
Posted on 8/1/19 at 7:26 am to
I'm sure there are others here that know much more than me, but I was always told if you may need both MRI/CT you should do them at the same time. Supposedly it's more cost effective than doing one then having to go back a month later to do the other

Also, have they considered AIDS? Kinda sounds like AIDS
Posted by Areddishfish
The Wild West
Member since Oct 2015
6538 posts
Posted on 8/1/19 at 7:30 am to
The more letters, the higher the cost. You can get more refined pictures with MRI than a CT. It just depends on what you are scanning and which one is more economical and sufficient.
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
35061 posts
Posted on 8/1/19 at 7:30 am to
Bloodwork was good. No AIDs sir
Posted by phutureisyic
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2016
3618 posts
Posted on 8/1/19 at 7:39 am to
In order of price:
When I broke my hand, I had an X-ray(bones) done.
When I tore my rotator cuff, I had an MRI(muscle, tendons, joints) done.
When I had diverticulitis with an abscess, I had a Ct Scan(like an MRI but for more severe injuries) done.

Looks like you should get an MRI done first before a CT Scan.
This post was edited on 8/1/19 at 7:44 am
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
35061 posts
Posted on 8/1/19 at 7:46 am to
Ok cool. Apparently the MRA vs the CT/A is the same thing. Both check the blood vessels and arteries. Just wondering why the CT is so much more

I might just do the two MR’s through the Rheumatologist and see what she says.
Posted by FAP SAM
Member since Sep 2014
3263 posts
Posted on 8/1/19 at 7:48 am to
quote:

Bloodwork was good
Watch out sometimes superAIDS gets past traditional bloodwork.


But seriously, talk to both doctors to see if they can get the information they are looking for from the other scan. They may have chosen the scan they did just for personal preference, but it may be that the other scan would suffice.
Posted by LSUERDOC
Member since Jul 2013
2608 posts
Posted on 8/1/19 at 7:50 am to
If they find a subclavian artery aneurysm prior to it rupturing and killing you, then you will be glad you paid the money.

I would get the CTA. MRI/MRA is more expensive than CTA.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
132620 posts
Posted on 8/1/19 at 8:16 am to
CTA is better than MRA
Posted by pngtiger
Mobile
Member since May 2004
1838 posts
Posted on 8/1/19 at 8:27 am to
CT is X-ray based, and can look at most anything. Except it’s terrible at defining soft tissue and ligament/tendon issues.

MRI uses magnets to line up molecules in your cells. Great for looking at soft tissue and ligament/tendon issues, and to see how many cell layers are between say a tumor and normal tissue, but bad at most everything else.

A in both just means angiogram, so they are giving some type of dye that will light up the arteries. You can have a contrasted study for both, where they give dye, but not specifically in the arteries.

So basically, CT would be better for broad range trying to find the cause, but if it’s negative, they may get the MRI to try to find ligamentous injury

ETA: I don’t know exactly where your pain is, but sometimes you can have “shoulder” pain as referred pain from something irritating the diaphragm. In that case, a CT would be better at finding that
This post was edited on 8/1/19 at 8:31 am
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 8/1/19 at 8:30 am to
quote:

Apparently the MRA vs the CT/A is the same thing.


NO
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
35061 posts
Posted on 8/1/19 at 8:44 am to
quote:

New studies are pointing to magnetic resonance angiography (MRA) as equally effective in doing the same thing, without exposing patients to ionizing radiation.



LINK
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 8/1/19 at 8:50 am to
Understood similarities of both being different from an MRI, but the MRA and CT have differences.
I had a brain tumor. Ive had em ALL and have cisually seen the differences in all and why the ohysicians use different ones for different reasons.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
132620 posts
Posted on 8/1/19 at 8:56 am to
MRA is much more prone to artifact. And more expensive.
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
35061 posts
Posted on 8/1/19 at 8:58 am to
That sucks that the CT won’t be able to see if there is muscle or ligament damage or Thoracic outlet
Posted by LEASTBAY
Member since Aug 2007
16672 posts
Posted on 8/1/19 at 9:03 am to
The ones with the A behind it mean they are looking at blood vessels by means of using contrast. You wouldn't get an MRA for an injury like a knee or shoulder.
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17919 posts
Posted on 8/1/19 at 9:08 am to
quote:

I had a Ct Scan(like an MRI but for more severe injuries) done


Incorrect

neither is "better" than the other, they use different mechanisms (ct uses x rays, MRI uses magnets) and produce different images, depending on what the dr is trying to rule in or rule out will determine which scan they use, discuss your concerns with your dr and he/she should be able to explain why they are ordering what
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