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Developer baws; do you think Agile is a cult?
Posted on 8/21/19 at 6:46 pm
Posted on 8/21/19 at 6:46 pm
A lot of literature, lots of buzzword terms, a lot of disciples, hoards of money grabbing snake oil selling evangelists, and no evidence at all that it works.
Scrum masters are basically outdated developers - turned - glorified cheerleaders looking for a career change.
Who knows what I’m talking about?
Scrum masters are basically outdated developers - turned - glorified cheerleaders looking for a career change.
Who knows what I’m talking about?
This post was edited on 8/21/19 at 6:47 pm
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Posted on 8/21/19 at 6:48 pm to Eli Goldfinger
I’m not a developer but I was a biz analyst. Agile is just a methodology like anything else out there.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 6:49 pm to jcaz
No...it’s different.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 6:50 pm to Eli Goldfinger
Agile is big in our company right now. I don’t really pay attention to it because It doesn’t apply to our group. I don’t fully understand what they are doing nor do I give a crap.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 6:51 pm to MSTiger33
They’re having lots of meetings and paying a scrum master a lot of money.
I avg 4-5 hours of meetings per day.
I avg 4-5 hours of meetings per day.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 6:53 pm to Eli Goldfinger
Our tech teams use it and I gotta say it seems to help get projects done by keeping them moving and breaking them into smaller chunks. I’m not versed in it by any means but just speaking from a business side perspective.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 6:54 pm to Eli Goldfinger
I wouldn't go as far as to say it's a cult
Posted on 8/21/19 at 6:54 pm to Eli Goldfinger
It’s a way for people putting too much time in simple problems or lazies to be held accountable for low output. Lots of buzzwords but at the end of the day it’s to deliver results
Posted on 8/21/19 at 6:54 pm to Eli Goldfinger
It’s marketing. But yes people who are all in on agile are unrealistic and insane. Like people who go to mega churches but with daily standups.
I love the part where they can’t wrap their heads around a CEO and CFO wanting to know how long something will take and how much it will cost.
I love the part where they can’t wrap their heads around a CEO and CFO wanting to know how long something will take and how much it will cost.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 7:11 pm to BeerMoney
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I love the part where they can’t wrap their heads around a CEO and CFO wanting to know how long something will take and how much it will cost.
Sounds like a shitty executive team if they bought in to a methodology without understanding how it works or if it meets their needs.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 7:18 pm to TheChosenOne
Well in my limited experience, it Comes in grassroots. Something directors and VPs do to shut the workers up. The scrum masters I dealt with were not that title in the HCM, they were analysts or project managers. Agile to the workers but to the manager and above there is a schedule, budget and all those things that typically make sense in business.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 7:22 pm to Eli Goldfinger
quote:You misspelled “Aggies” and the answer is yes.
do you think Agile is a cult?
Posted on 8/21/19 at 7:27 pm to Eli Goldfinger
I heard of it, but don't know much about it. Isn't there some type of manifesto associated with it?
Posted on 8/21/19 at 7:35 pm to OweO
There is.
Agile certification is basically the new PMP.
Agile certification is basically the new PMP.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 7:45 pm to Eli Goldfinger
It is a bit culty but requires everyone from the top down to buy into it. That's where my company fails. They are stuck in waterfall world where work needs a start and end date with a cost associated with it. Project managers galore. Trying to institute SAFe agile with a project mentality and trying to standardize pointing systems so teams can be compared. Basically, throwing out most of the tenants if agile.
It can work when done properly, but usually bean counters and control freaks (project managers) end up getting in the way everywhere I've worked.
It can work when done properly, but usually bean counters and control freaks (project managers) end up getting in the way everywhere I've worked.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 7:48 pm to Eli Goldfinger
I don't know about "cult," but it damn sure isn't little-a agile anymore. "People over processes" my arse.
Also, Scrum:Agile::TheMonkees:RockAndRoll
Also, Scrum:Agile::TheMonkees:RockAndRoll
Posted on 8/21/19 at 7:52 pm to Eli Goldfinger
UAB offers a PMP-Agile certification now. Considering it as I work for a software company in a support role and not programming.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 7:55 pm to Eli Goldfinger
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Who knows what I’m talking about?
I’m not a scrum master, nor am I a developer, but I’m fully versed in agile PM.
The process works. People just don’t like change and IT nerds are some of the worst at accepting change.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 8:11 pm to Eli Goldfinger
It does require total buy-in, making it seem cultish, but I’ll be damned if it doesn’t work.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 8:23 pm to Sev09
Yup. I run my weeks worth of work through a Kanban board. Keeps me task focused and not worried/sidetracking onto other projects.
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