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re: Degrees. Apprenticeships. Need for a college degree in a lot of areas about to evaporate

Posted on 9/6/25 at 8:33 am to
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
9522 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 8:33 am to
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People will lose jobs.


What is the plan for all those without jobs?

Why is this good? What are the "new jobs" all those who are displaced going to do?

You can't just destroy something without a plan for what comes next. If you don't, you are heading for a huge disaster.

The AI tech bros are nothing but bad news and evil.

Posted by Boss13
Mobile
Member since Oct 2016
1813 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 8:34 am to
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AI is a lot more than Chat GPT. Some really smart humans working on some wild stuff behind the scenes.


If thats true why are they not making buckets of money on simple stuff? I have gemini and it can't even be a half decent personal assistant and 95% of the tools it needs (calendar, email, sheets, etc.) already exist. That would be something I and a lot of other people would pay real money for.

Think about the simple things they aren't selling you, things that would make you more productive. Think about how simple it is for you to do those things and ask why isnt AI doing this yet.
Posted by Boss13
Mobile
Member since Oct 2016
1813 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 8:37 am to
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Partly agree. The way individuals use AI is a gimmick. It's purely data aggregation and news wire. But I've seen some pretty wild AI integration in the finance sector as well as in medical EHRs. People will lose jobs.


I dont disagree that things change. Can you help me understand what AI is doing in the financial sector and EHRs?

Im open to changing my opinion and would like to understand better what you're saying.
Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
Member since Sep 2008
2180 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 8:37 am to
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What is the plan for all those without jobs?

Why is this good? What are the "new jobs" all those who are displaced going to do?

You can't just destroy something without a plan for what comes next. If you don't, you are heading for a huge disaster.

The AI tech bros are nothing but bad news and evil.

We could go back to spear hunting if you prefer. Humans are wired to innovate.
Posted by Onyx Aggie
Foothills of the Smokies
Member since Sep 2012
2569 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 8:43 am to
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Right now and for at least the next 10 decades, its a party gimmick and its already getting old.


I honestly don't even know what to do with this. Do you honestly believe that over the next 100 years, AI will be nothing but a gimmick?

Sounds kinda flat earther.
Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
Member since Sep 2008
2180 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 8:44 am to
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Can you help me understand what AI is doing in the financial sector and EHRs?

Major health systems are already utilizing AI in their EHR that has the ability to summarize patient encounter, notes, history, etc and immediately create plans of care. It also records live and tele visits and makes the same conclusions. Provider documentation time is cut 75% and they are sending these patients out the door in 15 mins ($$$$).
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293440 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 8:45 am to
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Not sure we need students in schools. we can socialize them better than that.



I'm of the opinion that schools are not a positive experience for most kids.
Posted by GetMeOutOfHere
Member since Aug 2018
1006 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 8:45 am to
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Companies that replace their thinkers and doers with AI over the next few years are going to pay exponentially more for the mistakes it makes than they save on salaries.

Im going on record on this. There is a bubble and its going to pop.


This is a much better use of the "exponential" term that gets thrown around with AI.

ChatGPT 5 was the first sign of the bubble popping. It was supposed to be this world changing version and wasn't really any better than 4. I've seen reports that it's worse.

But it's easy to throw a lot of data at the AI, have it come up with something that sounds good on the surface, then someone who knows what they are doing looks at the result and recognizes it as the slop that it is.

It's a new evolution of the search engine.
Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
Member since Sep 2008
2180 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 8:47 am to
I think the problem is diminishing AI to ChatGPT.
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
9522 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 8:48 am to
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We could go back to spear hunting if you prefer. Humans are wired to innovate.


Nice deflection. Are you saying there is no plan for what comes next?

Is there no thought to the tertiary effects of your "AI utopia"?

You are wanting to DiSrUpT the system. The onus is on you to think about the downstream effects of your wonderful "AI".

Which ironically enough has been exposed a few times as Actually Indians. lmao.
Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
Member since Sep 2008
2180 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 8:51 am to
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Nice deflection. Are you saying there is no plan for what comes next?

Is there no thought to the tertiary effects of your "AI utopia"?

You are wanting to DiSrUpT the system. The onus is on you to think about the downstream effects of your wonderful "AI".

Which ironically enough has been exposed a few times as Actually Indians. lmao.

I'm saying this story has been played out in history countless times. Old skills die with old people.
Posted by GetMeOutOfHere
Member since Aug 2018
1006 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 8:52 am to
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I think the problem is diminishing AI to ChatGPT.


The other general AIs aren't that much better.

I'm not saying they're useless, but they are not going to completely overturn society as we know it on the current track.

For all of the noise about these AI companies, shouldn't they be making money hand over fist? They aren't even close.
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
9522 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 8:53 am to
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I'm saying this story has been played out in history countless times. Old skills die with old people.


So you have no clue. lmao.

Extreme hypothetical: AI takes 50% of the jobs away in the US.

What do all those people do? Is the US some giant welfare state with tech bros paying UBI to the masses to sit around and do nothing?

Posted by Boss13
Mobile
Member since Oct 2016
1813 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 9:03 am to
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It also records live and tele visits and makes the same conclusions.


Speech recognition has made significant advances that make this possible.

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...EHR that has the ability to summarize patient encounter, notes, history, etc and immediately create plans of care


I disagree that this is AI, its mostly reformatting existing data into a better format. I would also argue that the systems out now have codebases that have been a working progress for at least a decade with most of what they do having been in some kind of trial since 2020.

I guess I would argue that the software does not use AI but they rebranded it as such because it equals $$$.
Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
Member since Sep 2008
2180 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 9:04 am to
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The other general AIs aren't that much better.

I'm not saying they're useless, but they are not going to completely overturn society as we know it on the current track.

For all of the noise about these AI companies, shouldn't they be making money hand over fist? They aren't even close.

You're stuck on user input AI engines. AI is a workhorse in major industries. Self driving is AI.
Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
Member since Sep 2008
2180 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 9:06 am to
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So you have no clue. lmao.

Extreme hypothetical: AI takes 50% of the jobs away in the US.

What do all those people do? Is the US some giant welfare state with tech bros paying UBI to the masses to sit around and do nothing?

I don't know, bro. I'm not an alarmist or doomsday type of person. We shall see.
Posted by Boss13
Mobile
Member since Oct 2016
1813 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 9:08 am to
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I honestly don't even know what to do with this.


Make an argument as to why im wrong?

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Do you honestly believe that over the next 100 years, AI will be nothing but a gimmick?



On its current track and without a paradigm shifting discovery, yes.

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Sounds kinda flat earther.


What makes you so certain you are right and I am wrong? The way people talk about AI reminds me of the .com bubble and Enron. Where is the evidence that this is going to reshape the world as we know it?
Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
Member since Sep 2008
2180 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 9:11 am to
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I disagree that this is AI, its mostly reformatting existing data into a better format.

You forgot about the part where I said it creates plans of care. Once a software starts making suggestions and/or predictions base off data, and can then tweak those suggestions based off user input or trends, that's the definition of AI.
This post was edited on 9/6/25 at 9:14 am
Posted by tigerbutt
Deep South
Member since Jun 2006
26074 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 9:15 am to
OP should have ran their verbage thru AI first before posting. English is horrible.
Posted by GetMeOutOfHere
Member since Aug 2018
1006 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 9:17 am to
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You're stuck on user input AI engines. AI is a workhorse in major industries. Self driving is AI.



Self driving has been coming for everyone in 5 years for the past 15 years.

And if you're going to go that far with the goalposts, AI has been around for over 20 years.

When a camera finds a face in a video? That's been around since the early 2000s and uses neural networks.

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