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re: Court rules against Oregon bakers in wedding-cake case
Posted on 12/29/17 at 7:58 am to Revelator
Posted on 12/29/17 at 7:58 am to Revelator
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What you want is government control of businesses.
Not at all. I just don't understand these business owners. Seems like a ridiculous way to lose your business because of your "beliefs". Seems nuts to me! Over a fricking cake.
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Posted on 12/29/17 at 7:59 am to Will Cover
This is an Oregon court. If it does go to the Supreme Court, couldn't they use the commerce clause as they did in enforcing the civil rights act of 1964?
On a side note, if they wanted to test the "Oregon remains open to all" in the extreme, they can have the local chapter of the klan have their quarterly cross burning after party catered by Aunt Mammy's Soul Food.
On a side note, if they wanted to test the "Oregon remains open to all" in the extreme, they can have the local chapter of the klan have their quarterly cross burning after party catered by Aunt Mammy's Soul Food.
Posted on 12/29/17 at 7:59 am to Boudreaux35
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"Hey you mother-f**ckin' **** n***er, come get tow my car to the shop!"
Do you do it?
If I pull my cock out in front of your wife and tell her it's not going to suck itself, should she do it?
Posted on 12/29/17 at 8:09 am to PeterPeterP
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Not at all. I just don't understand these business owners. Seems like a ridiculous way to lose your business because of your "beliefs". Seems nuts to me! Over a fricking cake.
What does the ridiculousness of the issue have to do with anything? You want government to set certain parameters in which he can conduct his business instead of letting him decide. This is government control of business.
This post was edited on 12/29/17 at 8:22 am
Posted on 12/29/17 at 8:19 am to MorbidTheClown
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people standing firm on their beliefs is ridiculous? Interesting POV.
How very patronizing of you. I didn't say that. Alot of "religious" people stand firm on their beliefs but when it comes to a public business, I just don't agree over something as stupid as this.
And you say "if's its YOUR choice". I get that. Its YOUR business. BUT, maybe you shouldn't be a public business if you are choosing to tell certain people (no matter gay, not gay, white, black, kids, etc) NO, GET OUT. I don't believe in that! Good Lord man. Maybe go into a 9-5 job and sit behind a desk where you don't deal with other poeple.
Posted on 12/29/17 at 8:23 am to PeterPeterP
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I get that. Its YOUR business. BUT, maybe you shouldn't be a public business if you are choosing to tell certain people (no matter gay, not gay, white, black, kids, etc) NO, GET OUT. I don't believe in that! Good Lord man. Maybe go into a 9-5 job and sit behind a desk where you don't deal with other poeple.
Why shouldn't he be in public business? Because you say so? Because you don't agree with it?
Posted on 12/29/17 at 8:23 am to Will Cover
This is just ridiculous.
You are a baker. You bake cakes.
Two people want a fricking cake. It's not your business what the fricking cake is for, your business is to bake the fricking cake.
If they want to take the cake home and stick it up each other's twats who gives a frick? it's a CAKE! And you just bake fricking cakes...who gives a frick what someone wants to do with the damn cake????
Both sides on this shite are ridiculous and both get what the deserve. The stupid fricking we don't bake cakes for figs idiots no longer bake cakes for anyone and the lesbians will eat cake from Walmart with all that money and get diabetes and die from being fat hogs
people and their stupid views
You are a baker. You bake cakes.
Two people want a fricking cake. It's not your business what the fricking cake is for, your business is to bake the fricking cake.
If they want to take the cake home and stick it up each other's twats who gives a frick? it's a CAKE! And you just bake fricking cakes...who gives a frick what someone wants to do with the damn cake????
Both sides on this shite are ridiculous and both get what the deserve. The stupid fricking we don't bake cakes for figs idiots no longer bake cakes for anyone and the lesbians will eat cake from Walmart with all that money and get diabetes and die from being fat hogs
people and their stupid views
Posted on 12/29/17 at 8:24 am to Cornholio
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Why shouldn't he be in public business? Because you say so? Because you don't agree with it?
it's the way liberals think. You can do/say anything you want..... as long as I agree with it.
Posted on 12/29/17 at 8:27 am to Will Cover
This ruling is sick. These liberal jackasses should really think before spewing this bullshite. Would they force an african american baker to bake a kkk cake? Or a jewish baker to bake a cake with a nazi swastika? I don't think so.
Posted on 12/29/17 at 8:30 am to danfraz
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Two people want a fricking cake. It's not your business what the fricking cake is for, your business is to bake the fricking cake.
By your logic, the businessman would never have any control over what he had to sell or serve. He would be at the whim of the customer regarding all business decisions. Why shouldn't the business owner have the right to sink or swim by his own decisions?
Posted on 12/29/17 at 8:30 am to Revelator
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Why shouldn't the business owner have the right to sink or swim by his own decisions?
Posted on 12/29/17 at 8:32 am to Cornholio
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Cornholio
You and the ones like you are the reason for saying you can't fix stupid.
Posted on 12/29/17 at 8:35 am to Cornholio
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Would they force an african american baker to bake a kkk cake? Or a jewish baker to bake a cake with a nazi swastika?
This is exactly what I want to know.
Posted on 12/29/17 at 8:36 am to PeterPeterP
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1. You're a public bakery. Bake the cake. Why ask who or what the cake is for? If someone walks in and places an order, who the frick are they to ask "well, who is it for?" Whether they are gay cake bakers or not. Who the frick cares?
They were asked to make a cake for the gay wedding. How are they not supposed to know who/what it is for.
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2. They were not asked to perform the lesbian ceremony or "partiicpate" in any way. They were asked to bake flour and water. fricking bake it and keep your religious beliefs out of it. If someone walked in and asked for a Devil cake, then fricking make it.
So, you should be forced to provide something that goes against your beliefs? Not very "tolerant".
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3. I agree,these lesbos could have walked away, destroyed their business on Yelp or through reviews but didn't. And now its a huge story in the media.
They should have done what any normal person would have done. They, however, were looking for a scandal. Paid for their wedding out of it.
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4. I don't care what you worship, who you worship but if you are a public business, you shouldn't be able to discriminate on who you serve because it doesn't fit "your beliefs". Sounds alot like ISIS imposing their shite beliefs on others.
They are a private business. Funny you bring up Isis. I believe a similar scenario happened at a Muslim owned bakery. I bet you can guess the outcome.
Posted on 12/29/17 at 8:38 am to danfraz
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Two people want a fricking cake. It's not your business what the fricking cake is for, your business is to bake the fricking cake.
Except, it is their business what the cake is for, otherwise they couldn't make the cake you idiot. They did not refuse to make them a cake because they were gay, they refused to make a cake that would be a part of a gay wedding because they didn't want their business to be a part of that type of ceremony because it goes against their belief. This isn't difficult people.
Posted on 12/29/17 at 8:39 am to Revelator
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By your logic
by my logic it's a fricking cake. And you bake cakes. Don't like the gays buying your cakes? Make bad cakes. That's sinking or swimming by your choice.
Screaming that you won't bake a cake for someone cause you think "God" doesn't want you to do so is no logic
Posted on 12/29/17 at 8:39 am to Will Cover
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Today's ruling sends a strong signal that Oregon remains open to all**,"
**With the exception of conservative bakers
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forcing them to pay emotional-distress damages of $135,000 to the lesbian couple.
frick the legal system in this country
Posted on 12/29/17 at 8:40 am to danfraz
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Don't like the gays buying your cakes? Make bad cakes
You honestly think they just aren't baking cakes for gay people? Honestly?
Posted on 12/29/17 at 8:45 am to Will Cover
I fricking love assholes who quote Leviticus.
I wonder if he would also kill his son for talking back or his daughter if she has sex before marriage or his wife if she don't obey. All that is in Leviticus. But yes, let's cherry pick the laws we want to follow as long as they support personal prejudice.
I wonder if he would also kill his son for talking back or his daughter if she has sex before marriage or his wife if she don't obey. All that is in Leviticus. But yes, let's cherry pick the laws we want to follow as long as they support personal prejudice.
Posted on 12/29/17 at 8:47 am to Azkiger
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So if a Christian went to a gay artist and asked them to do a painting of gays burning in hell you think the government should force the artist to do the painting?
, that's not even remotely close to the case at hand. The bakers are in trouble because they refused to make a cake for a gay couple, plain and simple. They can refuse to put specific messages on the cake, like a rainbow flag, and they'd be within the law to do so. They cannot, from a legal standpoint, refuse to make a plain cake for a couple because they're gay.
I don't agree with the law/ruling, but that's how civil rights cases work. Bakers can discriminate against the message, but they can't discriminate against the person.
If that Christian went to a gay artist and asked for a random painting, the artist couldn't refuse to sell it to him because he's a Christian.
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