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re: Could The University of Alabama be the next Baylor. UPDATE:Another victim has come forward

Posted on 7/6/17 at 6:11 pm to
Posted by Fatal Conceit
Ramblin down that dusty ole road
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 7/6/17 at 6:11 pm to
When Troy King was Attorney General, Alabama had the best victims advocate agency in the country. I think sitting appointed senator Tulane grad strange did away with it when he was the Attorney General.

Not saying it's relevant....jes sayin. Who knows
This post was edited on 7/6/17 at 6:14 pm
Posted by Five0
Member since Dec 2009
11354 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 6:18 pm to
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The fact that a rape kit wasn't done is a joke.


A kit was done, it just wasn't sent to the Department of Forensic Sciences (DFS).
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 7/6/17 at 6:23 pm to
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Isn't he the sheriff, and she the Corp Rel exec at UA?


A quote a few pages back, link included, said she coordinates getting all the donations and writes the grant proposals for fed money.

She, along with Little T's father, have the president of the university on speed dial. Everything is mixed up like a pot of gumbo, with everything being related to everything else.
Posted by Five0
Member since Dec 2009
11354 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 6:25 pm to
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They are suing individuals, not any institution.


True. It was left open for other parties that are not yet known. See the Fictitious Parties A through L for example.

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A rape kit was done. It was never sent to the lab. Does anybody know if it still exists? Even if the fluids are now degraded, the paperwork would be important.


Correct. Particularly important if there is documentation as to why the kit was not sent in for analysis.

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What is the scope of what he will be forced to answer at deposition time?


To much info to post so here are the local rules.

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Was the last part asking for an injunction to force the sheriff to do his job from here forward?


Not an injunction, but a prayer of relief to force future action.
This post was edited on 7/6/17 at 6:26 pm
Posted by Fatal Conceit
Ramblin down that dusty ole road
Member since Jun 2017
594 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 6:26 pm to
Thanks.
Posted by cbdman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2015
1264 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 6:43 pm to
I believe the parents reached a confidential settlement with the university following a mediation prior to filing suit. Don't know whether $ was exchanged, but that's usually the point of mediation.

The employees should be indemnified by their employer.

Sweets will be deposed and i could see some questions asked he'll decline to answer pee 5A.
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
45118 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 6:45 pm to
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To much info to post so here are the local rules.


In your experience, is forty (40) interrogatories usually enough. I did see the system for getting more if necessary but is 40 a good number?

Under 37a, they can get a judgement to make people answer things they may not want to, or answer incompletely. Does this include questions that could cross over to a criminal case?

Thanks for your patience.
Posted by Hangit
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 7/6/17 at 6:48 pm to
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I believe the parents reached a confidential settlement with the university following a mediation prior to filing suit.


This is the first I have heard of this. Can you link a brother or do I need to start searching? I find that very interesting.
Posted by cbdman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2015
1264 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 6:52 pm to
I believe if you go back to the statement by the university or the plaintiffs lawyer its mentioned.
Posted by HarryBalzack
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/6/17 at 6:57 pm to
Yeah, if even half of that is true, Howard needs to be fired yesterday. She makes nearly $85k/year. That's enough to answer some damn emails.
Posted by cbdman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2015
1264 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 7:00 pm to
Posted by cbdman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 7/6/17 at 7:02 pm to
"There was a mediation with the Rondini family and the university, the details of which are confidential."
Posted by HarryBalzack
Member since Oct 2012
16220 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 7:03 pm to
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The university would not be a party to a criminal complaint. That is an issue that most people, no matter how reasonable they are, that are outside of the legal world do not understand. There is only so much the university has a duty to do and beyond that only so much it, as an entity, can do in such a scenario.
Yes, but the reps from the WGRC are supposed to explain to her exactly how the case is supposed to proceed, who she will hear from, when things are supposed to happen, what she needs to do on her end, and they are supposed to accompany her the hearings and act in loco parentis unless the parents show up and ask that they not be there or the student asks that they not be there.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 7:06 pm to
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That being said, approximately 10% of reported rapes in Tuscaloosa are followed through with in the legal system. The sheriff says many are girls thinking they will get help with their grades if they are deemed a victim. Any false filings should be punished. Any real ones should be prosecuted.


Thats not far outside the norm unfortunately, there were some national statistics posted early in the thread.

... Found it

LINK
pretty shocking says like 10 out of 300 are referred to prosecutors
This post was edited on 7/6/17 at 7:17 pm
Posted by Five0
Member since Dec 2009
11354 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 7:18 pm to
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In your experience, is forty (40) interrogatories usually enough. I did see the system for getting more if necessary but is 40 a good number?


Yes. The key reason for interrogatories is that they are cheaper than a depo.

The advantage to depos is they are on the record and can cover a lot of material (scope being anything that could lead to relevant evidence) and they can go way past 40 questions.

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Under 37a, they can get a judgement to make people answer things they may not want to, or answer incompletely. Does this include questions that could cross over to a criminal case?


It could but those objections usually cover things like attorney/client privilege and attorney work product exclusions. If I remember rule numbers correctly off the top of my head. My mind knows rules not rule numbers.
This post was edited on 7/6/17 at 9:12 pm
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
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45118 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 7:23 pm to
Thanks
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
45118 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 7:26 pm to
Thanks also.
Posted by cbdman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2015
1264 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 8:53 pm to
I suspect they've already been paid a 7-figure settlement.
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
45118 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 10:26 pm to
A well known predator (Rumor) with the free run of the campus, a pocket full of money and all the time in the world is a settlement waiting to happen.
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 10:29 pm to
You're a bumping fool. Motive? Rhetorical.
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