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Could almost anyone born after 1940 fight in WWI

Posted on 12/5/17 at 6:03 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 12/5/17 at 6:03 pm
The WWII thread, I'm coming to the conclusion that today's generation would fight in it gladly. We knew how evil Hitler and the Japanese were. This was without question worth going to war over. We can rise for very serious reasons, which WWII provides.

WWI... Not so much. No one knew what the hell they were fighting for. It had far worse environments than almost anywhere in WWII, with the exception of the Eastern Front (Stalingrad most notably). And even putting in Stalingrad into the equation, I don't know for certain which I'd choose between it and Verdun. Those trenches and some of those battles, it's easy to see where Tolkien got his ideas for Mordor.

Think about you being in WWI, and you're a British soldier and see 60,000 of your fellow men plowed down in a single day. Going over those trenches is a death sentence. And for what? There's no real good reason for me to go over that trench. At least facing genocidal regimes or being subject to one will give you that motivation.

I really don't think that the Baby Boomers or any generation beyond would tolerate this. If you put almost anyone with a mid-20th Century mindset and beyond into those trenches, soldiers on all sides would rebel against their superior officers. I'm not even sure if the so-called Greatest Generation would do it.

WWII is great and a war that is easy to romanticize given the evil we were facing, but WWI was the real hardcore war. If I had a time machine and could go observe some things, I'm pretty sure I'd like to witness a few WWII events like D-Day or Dunkirk. WWI no way. I know I'd completely snap in WWI, but in WWII I could at least hold onto what I'm doing is morally righteous.
This post was edited on 12/5/17 at 6:26 pm
Posted by Bullfrog
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Posted on 12/5/17 at 6:06 pm to
Way tl;dr
Posted by JetsetNuggs
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Posted on 12/5/17 at 6:07 pm to
Posted by LSUwag
Florida man
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Posted on 12/5/17 at 6:07 pm to
My Grandfather fought in WWI.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 12/5/17 at 6:08 pm to
After reading about the fighting at the Somme there is no way in hell. Also thinking back to the treatment of those who were shell shocked, nope, couldn't do it now. I'm sure I would have then though.
Posted by slackster
Houston
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Posted on 12/5/17 at 6:09 pm to
People supported Vietnam, so I'm sure WWI would have had its fans too.
Posted by RougeDawg
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Posted on 12/5/17 at 6:12 pm to
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Could almost anyone born after 1940 fight in WWI


If they had a time machine.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 12/5/17 at 6:13 pm to
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People supported Vietnam, so I'm sure WWI would have had its fans too.



The British lost more people in a single day of battle than the Americans lost throughout the entire Vietnam War. Also the British have a smaller population than we do, which makes the results even more devastating. It's completely on a different level than Vietnam.
This post was edited on 12/5/17 at 6:14 pm
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 12/5/17 at 6:13 pm to
correct

WWI was a war about kings and czars
archduke
there was no existential issue pertaining to commoners

english french, turks germans and russians were fighting constantly in small wars in the balkans.
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 12/5/17 at 6:15 pm to
There’s a reason WWI wasn’t exactly supported wholeheartedly by Americans at the time. Total hellhole. Thousands mowed down just to gain a few feet of real estate.

WWI was catastrophic by every measure. WWII was the finishing blow. Europe has not recovered.

Posted by johnnyrocket
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 12/5/17 at 6:16 pm to
My grandfather fought in WWI.
The people that served in this war are long gone.
You still have people that served in WWII, The Korean conflict, and Vietnam conflict still living.
You will hear more about these wars.
Posted by bountyhunter
North of Houston a bit
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 12/5/17 at 6:17 pm to
Simply put, every war is manned by people who have been manipulated into thinking their cause is just. People will do whatever smarter, more powerful, and richer people convince them to do.
Posted by Spankum
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Posted on 12/5/17 at 6:17 pm to
Nope...WWI ended in 1918
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 12/5/17 at 6:20 pm to
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Simply put, every war is manned by people who have been manipulated into thinking their cause is just. People will do whatever smarter, more powerful, and richer people convince them to do.



The soldiers kind of figured this out in the middle of WWI though. There was a level of honor not really seen at all today by the masses. I think that's the only thing that prevented mass mutinies, outside of Russia of course.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
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Posted on 12/5/17 at 6:22 pm to
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If you put almost anyone with a mid-20th Century mindset and beyond into those trenches, soldiers on all sides would rebel against their superior officers. I'm not even sure if the so-called Greatest Generation would do it. 


This is where you're flawed.

In the early 1900s people weren't receiving news as well as the mid 20th century mindset they you speak of.

Couple that with the men who fought in WWI growing up and hearing stories of the valiant effort their parents, uncle's and grand parents put into a war...it all makes sense why people chose to volunteer in WWI.

You can say the same about those who went to WW2..
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 12/5/17 at 6:23 pm to
quote:

The soldiers kind of figured this out in the middle of WWI though. There was a level of honor not really seen at all today by the masses. I think that's the only thing that prevented mass mutinies, outside of Russia of course.

Was there a level of honor? I know about the Xmas truce but aside from that little pause in carnage?

It’s always surprised me how long miserable fruitless wars are allowed to continue so long.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
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Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 12/5/17 at 6:23 pm to
I think you have to look at the mindsets from people that fought WWI differently compared to those that fought WWII and beyond. Especially at the outset of WWI, war was for the most part romanticized in those people's minds. They were brought up on "The Charge of the Light Brigade".

Nobody really knew the power of the artillery, machine guns, gas attacks and tanks at the latter part of the war to really be able to get a grasp upon what war was going to be like in the 20th Century and beyond. I can't remember who said it but I remember listening to Blueprint for Armageddon and a journalist writing that "war is stupid now" after seeing what it was like on the frontlines.

Not that many people died comparatively speaking in wars previous to WWI, but once artillery and machine guns came out, it was all random and that took a heavy toll on the generation after.

Everybody knows now what war is like for the most part, there's no more real romanticizing war for what it is.

William Sherman said it best, and while I am in no way, shape, or form a Sherman fanboy, he had it right when he said, "War is hell. And its glory is moonshine."

Nobody has anymore false pretenses of what war and battle is like anymore and if they do, all they need to do is pick up a book or head over to YouTube and start looking it up themselves.

WWI put the entire continent of Europe in a comatose state. It took WWII to jerk them back out of it and that was really too late for the continent. Europe will never get back to that type of height as it had before the start.

With all that being said, yes, people could have fought in WWI if they were born after 1940. The way a lot of people, myself included, see things is when your country comes calling, you don't back away.
This post was edited on 12/5/17 at 6:29 pm
Posted by ThatMakesSense
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Posted on 12/5/17 at 6:27 pm to
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Not that many people died comparatively speaking in wars previous to WWI, but once artillery and machine guns came out,


The machine gun was out way before WWI.
This post was edited on 12/5/17 at 6:28 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 12/5/17 at 6:27 pm to
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Couple that with the men who fought in WWI growing up and hearing stories of the valiant effort their parents, uncle's and grand parents put into a war...it all makes sense why people chose to volunteer in WWI.



But by 1916 the soldiers figured this out for themselves. These people are seeing lifelong friends get annihilated in front of them by the hundreds. This wasn't what they were promised in their youth. I do think their sense of honor was the only thing that held it together. Not many Baby Boomers and their descendants think this.
Posted by Elleshoe
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Posted on 12/5/17 at 6:27 pm to
Greatest generation my arse.
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