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re: Construction Management....
Posted on 6/13/16 at 10:24 pm to kingbob
Posted on 6/13/16 at 10:24 pm to kingbob
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No one I knew just took the pre bac classes and tried to go out for a job without getting the masters, so I can't help you there. Everyone I knew went into the masters program and loved it, getting great job offers at the end. Granted, some of them were only in the masters program because they got tapped to run family construction companies after having gotten degrees and worked in fields completely unrelated to construction


That's my predicament! My father in law sheepishly asked me twice if I had any management experience. He's having a lot of trouble finding good people to help him with his small drywall firm. He cannot keep up with all the work in Houston and was hinting at joining him.
But I wanted to learn the trade myself and come in hitting the ground running.
I think the best case to be really prepared will be to go all the way to the masters.
The masters is not compressed and is the exact same degree as the on campus one. IF you say it's THAT reputable then that is what I will pursue.
This post was edited on 6/13/16 at 10:24 pm
Posted on 6/13/16 at 10:25 pm to kingbob
Even if you don't have a connection, you just have to get hired as an estimator...I know multiple people that work in the field with degrees outside of the field
Posted on 6/13/16 at 10:26 pm to dillpickleLSU
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Even if you don't have a connection, you just have to get hired as an estimator...I know multiple people that work in the field with degrees outside of the field
Most companies don't have the patience to train estimators in the basics. Most people have to go to community college or get a CM degree to learn it before a company will hire them.
Posted on 6/13/16 at 10:27 pm to dillpickleLSU
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Even if you don't have a connection, you just have to get hired as an estimator...I know multiple people that work in the field with degrees outside of the field
I have a lot of math courses under my belt including advanced econ. I wouldn't mind starting there. So you dont need experience there? That's an avenue for entry level?
Posted on 6/13/16 at 10:28 pm to Manored77
quote:
he masters is not compressed and is the exact same degree as the on campus one.
It's the exact same degree. Same classes, same assignments, same professors, same exams.
quote:
IF you say it's THAT reputable then that is what I will pursue.
Good on ya!

Posted on 6/13/16 at 10:29 pm to kingbob
I'm telling you, there are more people out there than you think with degrees outside of the field that have wiggled their way in, it's not that difficult
For someone that already holds an Econ degree, it is a waste to get another degree. Just go get a job.
For someone that already holds an Econ degree, it is a waste to get another degree. Just go get a job.
Posted on 6/13/16 at 10:30 pm to Manored77
Find a connection at Turner Industries, get 2 years under your belt of them making you copy machine bitch, pick up what you can, and get out.
Posted on 6/13/16 at 10:39 pm to Manored77
Honestly, I'm smoking architects and civil engineers who are taking pbc for entrance into the cm masters program.
Lots of trades have working knowledge but lack simple theory or the ability to grasp on the fly (spoon feed)
Econ is theory you'll be fine
Lots of trades have working knowledge but lack simple theory or the ability to grasp on the fly (spoon feed)
Econ is theory you'll be fine
This post was edited on 6/13/16 at 10:44 pm
Posted on 6/13/16 at 10:40 pm to Manored77
I don't have any insight into the post grad CM program but as an Econ grad that's been in construction for 6 years I can say it's not that hard to pick up on. Granted I'm in residential but like others have said, immersing yourself in the field is the best education you can get.
Posted on 6/13/16 at 10:40 pm to dillpickleLSU
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here are more people out there than you think with degrees outside of the field that have wiggled their way in, it's not that difficult
Yeah, the only hard part they had was wiggling in that skirt
Posted on 6/14/16 at 9:02 am to Manored77
quote:Not Post-BAC, but I graduated BSCM from LSU and work in Houston now. I can't recommend the program enough though. From what I've heard from those going through it, it's a crash course to polish a 4-year degree, but you'll get solid information to base your knowledge growth on. The instructors all have previous experience in the industry (most have been fairly successful as well).
I wanted to know if anyone here has gone through the program?
quote:This may be difficult, as most companies hire based on experience. Field experience is priceless. Behind field experience, prior internships and relevant experience are huge (kind of a catch-22, since you can't really have field experience without having been previously employed).
I was wondering if I could find entry level work with just the post bac before I jump into the masters?
There are jobs everywhere in construction with the right degrees and qualifications. Construction is recession-proof (to a degree) - When O&G isn't building, renewable energy is. Government-sponsored and private construction projects alike help maintain a steady flow of work across the board. If it's something you want to do, it's well worth it.
I began work in project management for a company based out of Houston right out of college on crude oil transloading stations and O&G field offices in the Bakken (Montana, North Dakota), but when O&G slowed down, we moved into renewables and I was transferred into estimating and design. If it interests you, work towards getting some sort of degree in the field, whether it is a second bachelors or a masters, and you'll have no problem finding work if you apply yourself and take advantage of the career services with LSU. That's how I landed every internship/my full time position.
Good luck

Posted on 6/14/16 at 10:30 am to TexasTiger90
quote:
If it interests you, work towards getting some sort of degree in the field, whether it is a second bachelors or a masters, and you'll have no problem finding work if you apply yourself and take advantage of the career services with LSU. That's how I landed every internship/my full time position.
TexasTiger, are you saying that the post bac while similar to the bachelors isn't sufficient? I'd have to go totally fir a second bachelors or a masters?
I have kind of been swayed by Kingbobs advice that I would be better off with continuing on to the masters after I'm done with the Post Bac. Would you after with that?
Granted that employers look for field experience, what about in estimating? I'm good with crunching numbers? Would it be out of left field to find an estimating job with just the post bac while I continue on with the masters? Or what about straight construction administration, handling all the day to day office stuff?
Posted on 6/14/16 at 10:41 am to Manored77
quote:Sorry, I wasn't very clear in what I wrote. I mean any applicable degree program you can get your hands on (in this case, Post-BAC). As long as employers see you have relevant "classroom training" in the industry, they'll be more willing to take a chance on you since you don't have relevant work experience.
TexasTiger, are you saying that the post bac while similar to the bachelors isn't sufficient? I'd have to go totally fir a second bachelors or a masters?
quote:I can't argue with that...the more you have, the better off you are.
I have kind of been swayed by Kingbobs advice that I would be better off with continuing on to the masters after I'm done with the Post Bac. Would you after with that?
quote:Estimating is tricky, as you have to have a working knowledge of everything that goes into a structure, a site, an interior build-out, etc. I had 9 months of full-time project management experience (not to mention internships for 2 summers previously) before I was transferred into estimating, if that tells you anything. Administration may be an avenue you can take. This will give you insight on the day-to-day activities on a project, and will expose you to standard industry practices. That'd be the most likely entrance into the industry without relevant construction experience (a lot of business majors get these jobs from what I've seen). Estimating assistants are realistic as well. Look through career services to see internships, snag a few interviews, and let them lead you where they do.
Granted that employers look for field experience, what about in estimating? I'm good with crunching numbers? Would it be out of left field to find an estimating job with just the post bac while I continue on with the masters? Or what about straight construction administration, handling all the day to day office stuff?
Posted on 6/14/16 at 10:53 am to TexasTiger90
TexasTiger, excellent advice!
Now having gone through the program, what has been the reaction of employers as far as LSUs reputation in the CM field? I hear it's very well regarded by industry people. There is a lot of stuff about it producing the most entrepreneurs too. In CM LSU is supposed to be tops, no?
Now having gone through the program, what has been the reaction of employers as far as LSUs reputation in the CM field? I hear it's very well regarded by industry people. There is a lot of stuff about it producing the most entrepreneurs too. In CM LSU is supposed to be tops, no?
Posted on 6/14/16 at 11:04 am to Manored77
quote:Fantastic reputation. One of the better programs in my opinion. I've worked with people who went to schools in Texas, Missouri, Florida, Utah, California, and the level of real-world, applicable preparation that LSU provides to it's CM graduates is extremely noticeable.
Now having gone through the program, what has been the reaction of employers as far as LSUs reputation in the CM field? I hear it's very well regarded by industry people. There is a lot of stuff about it producing the most entrepreneurs too. In CM LSU is supposed to be tops, no?
This post was edited on 6/14/16 at 11:05 am
Posted on 7/22/16 at 7:31 pm to TexasTiger90
I am bringing this thread back from the dead because I I was wondering if anyone here has transitioned from Post Bac to Masters? If so, was it difficult? Did you still have to take the GRE and did you have an entirely different bachelors degree other than Eng, Arch, or CM?
Do you have to have relevant experience in order to apply?
Kujo, did you know anyone?
Do you have to have relevant experience in order to apply?
Kujo, did you know anyone?
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