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re: CNBC: Fed again approves 0.75-point hike in response to rapid inflation
Posted on 11/2/22 at 4:37 pm to bad93ex
Posted on 11/2/22 at 4:37 pm to bad93ex
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Why China and their "Zero Covid" lockdowns have some of the lowest inflation rates currently in the world?
A couple thoughts that come to mind:
1) China fully embraces the frick out of fossil fuels, roughly 70% of their energy comes from coal
2) They're not printing and giving away trillions of dollars like we are...kinda hard for a wage price spiral to take hold when you're a communist country and the government gives a big frick you to the populace
Posted on 11/2/22 at 4:51 pm to bad93ex
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Didn't they rely on Russia for their energy?
The Russia/Ukraine war affects not just immediate supply chains, but global prices(as does OPEC and other production disruptions).
But again, it's not that simple. more socialist Canada has only slightly higher gas prices yet lower inflation? If this correlation was the primary causation, we shouldnt be seeing that
Posted on 11/2/22 at 4:56 pm to Bronc
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But again, it's not that simple. more socialist Canada has only slightly higher gas prices yet lower inflation? If this correlation was the primary causation, we shouldnt be seeing that
You're almost there, what else makes Canada vastly different from Europe?
Posted on 11/2/22 at 4:56 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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They're not printing and giving away trillions of dollars like we are
Have you seen their "ghost cities?"
or followed their own stimulus plans?
LINK
They literally have been running a massive stimulus program for decades.
I think people continue to want to try and axiomatically align the causes and solutions on global inflation along the largely domestic political fault lines they are comfortable with and that simply doesnt neatly work when you drill down into it.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 4:58 pm to hubertcumberdale
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what should biden have done to prevent global supply chain disruptions?
JFC you a dumber than Joe Biden
How about I tell you all the things the democrats did to exacerbate the situation….
1. Continually pushed for more checks in the mail during COVID while everyone was at home not spending money
2. Rent moratorium
3. Student loan forgiveness
4. Attack on oil and gas (energy is the number 1 driver of inflation)
5. Increasing government regulation which increases the cost of everything.
So frick you for trying to say Biden couldn’t have done anything about global supply chains. If global supply chain issues were a brush fire, Biden poured kerosene on it and started a massive wild fire.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 5:01 pm to Bronc
Higher gas prices and high inflation have some similar but many different drivers. As has been broken out in this thread.
Oil and gas prices are driven by an open market, not the oil companies as the administration would love you to believe. They are price takers, not price makers.
Regardless, just for fun here are the individual years with the highest gas inflation in the last 50 years:
1980 - Jimmy Carter (38.97%)
2021 - Joe Biden (36%)
2022 - Joe Biden (35.58%)
1974 - Gerald Ford (35.36%)
1979 - Jimmy Carter (35.34%)
2000 - Bill Clinton (28.4%)
2011 - Barack Obama (26.45%)
It's almost like there's a theme there, and it seems to be a party that is openly hostile toward oil.
Oil and gas prices are driven by an open market, not the oil companies as the administration would love you to believe. They are price takers, not price makers.
Regardless, just for fun here are the individual years with the highest gas inflation in the last 50 years:
1980 - Jimmy Carter (38.97%)
2021 - Joe Biden (36%)
2022 - Joe Biden (35.58%)
1974 - Gerald Ford (35.36%)
1979 - Jimmy Carter (35.34%)
2000 - Bill Clinton (28.4%)
2011 - Barack Obama (26.45%)
It's almost like there's a theme there, and it seems to be a party that is openly hostile toward oil.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 5:02 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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1. Continually pushed for more checks in the mail during COVID while everyone was at home not spending money
2. Rent moratorium
Remind me who was president in 2020 and started sending out checks and committed to rent moratoriums?
Here, let me help you lol
LINK
Also, lots of countries did similar and some have worse inflation, some less. Again, not sure you would be able to find sufficient supporting evidence to back this argument up
This post was edited on 11/2/22 at 5:05 pm
Posted on 11/2/22 at 5:03 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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1. Continually pushed for more checks in the mail during COVID while everyone was at home not spending money
Trump handed out multiple stimulus and PPP
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4. Attack on oil and gas (energy is the number 1 driver of inflation)
Current levels of US oil production have little to do with the sitting president (historically shitty prices, future WTI prices much lower than current, covid lockdowns beginning in 2020/decreased demand and subsequent supply, oil and gas bankruptcies, etc)
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5. Increasing government regulation which increases the cost of everything.
What does this have anything to do with steel and other materials/goods imported from overseas?
its like you people are so politically mesmerized that everything you perceive as good is due to your fave political guy where everything bad is due to your least fave political guy
again, this shite is happening all over the world, not just in the USA
Posted on 11/2/22 at 5:04 pm to Bronc
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or followed their own stimulus plans?
LINK
May want to take into account population...where they have 4.25x as many people as we do.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 5:04 pm to Bronc
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Remind me who was president in 2020 and started sending out checks and committed to rent moratoriums?
It was a mistake then and it was an even bigger mistake to keep playing COVID well into 2022.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 5:07 pm to hubertcumberdale
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Current levels of US oil production have little to do with the sitting president (historically shitty prices, future WTI prices much lower than current, covid lockdowns beginning in 2020/decreased demand and subsequent supply, oil and gas bankruptcies, etc)
So you think that a president coming into office and flat out saying "I'm going to shut you down" and signing a bunch of executive orders on day 1 leads to those energy companies to say "yeah, I'm going to keep pumping billions into new infrastructure and production?", and do you not think that the market that sets the price doesn't react to that type of stuff?
I can't tell if you're just trolling at this point.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 5:09 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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So you think that a president coming into office and flat out saying "I'm going to shut you down" and signing a bunch of executive orders on day 1 leads to those energy companies to say "yeah, I'm going to keep pumping billions into new infrastructure and production?", and do you not think that the market that sets the price doesn't react to that type of stuff?
According to them that was them not being nice to the O&G companies and shouldn't affect prices.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 5:10 pm to hubertcumberdale
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its like you people are so politically mesmerized that everything you perceive
The current person witting in the WH stealing from your future is the one who swore to end fossil fuels.
That rock you live under must be air tight.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 5:11 pm to bad93ex
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According to them that was them not being nice to the O&G companies and shouldn't affect prices.
Which isnt hypocritical at all.... considering how they still REEEEE over mean tweets.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 5:13 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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So you think that a president coming into office and flat out saying "I'm going to shut you down" and signing a bunch of executive orders on day 1 leads to those energy companies to say "yeah, I'm going to keep pumping billions into new infrastructure and production?", and do you not think that the market that sets the price doesn't react to that type of stuff?
Should i post the graph again? The US is the current leading producer of crude oil, in the world. Also, US production is trending to surpass peak production levels (2019 levels) in the next year. How fast do you expect production to return to pre-pandemic levels? Do you realize breakeven prices are currently much higher for every producer? ie it much more expensive to drill a well today than it was in 2019. Future prices are also much lower in the future than they are today.
On top of all this, interest rates are going up so cost of capital will be much higher for oil and gas companies
This post was edited on 11/2/22 at 5:18 pm
Posted on 11/2/22 at 5:17 pm to bad93ex
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It was a mistake then and it was an even bigger mistake to keep playing COVID well into 2022.
But again, if you want to play this game you need to similarly explain why countries like France, Switzerland, Norway, and Canada have experienced less inflation despite similar stimulus spending, lockdowns, and even more robust safety nets?
It's just not the clean partisan causes/effects people are seeking.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 5:17 pm to hubertcumberdale
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Should i post the graph again
Just answer the damned question instead of deflecting. f Even a high schooler knows investment backs under the current progressive attacks.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 5:19 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Just answer the damned question instead of deflecting. f Even a high schooler knows investment backs under the current progressive attacks.
production is trending up and will surpass 2019 levels in the near future, how fast do you expect it to rebound? do you think theres a switch oil companies flip to increase shut in production?
investments also backs when oil falls to -$40/bbl
This post was edited on 11/2/22 at 5:21 pm
Posted on 11/2/22 at 5:20 pm to Bronc
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But again, if you want to play this game you need to similarly explain why countries like France, Switzerland, Norway, and Canada have experienced less inflation despite similar stimulus spending, lockdowns, and even more robust safety nets?
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The only industrialized country that spent a higher percentage of its GDP than the United States on Covid-related fiscal stimulus was Singapore.
Probably because we subsidize the shite out of European nations through military welfare and have different Fed policies than they do.
That was easy.
This post was edited on 11/2/22 at 5:25 pm
Posted on 11/2/22 at 5:28 pm to VaeVictus
Isn't US oil production basically at the same level it was prior to Covid?
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