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Posted on 3/2/24 at 8:08 am to loogaroo
Good. My kid had to wind up staying home a week. Never ran a fever or even coughed. Her arse should have been in school.
Posted on 3/2/24 at 8:09 am to loogaroo
When is Wal Mart going back to 24 hours.
Enough is enough
Enough is enough
Posted on 3/2/24 at 8:21 am to habz007
Don't forget, amidst all the lockdowns, BLM protests were exempt:
Politico
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For months, public health experts have urged Americans to take every precaution to stop the spread of Covid-19—stay at home, steer clear of friends and extended family, and absolutely avoid large gatherings.
Now some of those experts are broadcasting a new message: It’s time to get out of the house and join the mass protests against racism.
“We should always evaluate the risks and benefits of efforts to control the virus,” Jennifer Nuzzo, a Johns Hopkins epidemiologist, tweeted on Tuesday. “In this moment the public health risks of not protesting to demand an end to systemic racism greatly exceed the harms of the virus.”
Politico
Posted on 3/2/24 at 8:23 am to tigernurse
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I’m sure I’ll catch all manner of hell for sharing my opinion here abt this- but the current COVID strains aren’t nearly as bad as the initial strains.
So imho- it makes sense to update the guidelines.
signed- someone who worked covid ICU all through the pandemic
Don't try to bring logic up in here. You're gonna ruin the circle jerk!

Posted on 3/2/24 at 8:24 am to tigernurse
You are absolutely correct. But two things can be right . The shutdowns, distancing , masking, mandatory vaccinations and large scale denial of basic rights were a huge government overreach and the consequences will be felt for decades.
Can’t wait for the first Covid years sitcom to hit.
Can’t wait for the first Covid years sitcom to hit.
This post was edited on 3/2/24 at 8:26 am
Posted on 3/2/24 at 8:25 am to Epic Cajun
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Wild. So we should treat it like other respiratory infections? Not like it’s the plague? What a crazy thought. fricking idiots
So you're not clear on the difference between a "novel" pathogen and one that is no longer......."novel?" Got it.
Posted on 3/2/24 at 8:28 am to tigerbaiter
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You are absolutely correct. But two things can be right . The shutdowns, distancing , masking, mandatory vaccinations and large scale denial of basic rights were a huge government overspend
You are certainly correct. But we also have the benefit of hindsight now, something no one had in the beginning. So given all of the panic over what people were seeing in the first few months, what would you have them do? It's an honest question.
I'm pretty sure everybody on this board was guilty of hoarding toilet paper right off the bat, so there was a level of hysteria that had taken everyone for a ride. This board was littered with horror stories in the early days. It's like everyone conveniently forgot.
Posted on 3/2/24 at 8:59 am to tigerbaiter
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You are absolutely correct. But two things can be right . The shutdowns, distancing , masking, mandatory vaccinations and large scale denial of basic rights were a huge government overreach and the consequences will be felt for decades.
I totally agree. But that’s not really what the op was abt.
That being said- When the day came that the hospitals let Covid pts have visitors wearing paper masks but I had to wear my N95 - and I was assigned a clean (noncovid) patient and a covid patient on the same shift I was done with govt mandated bullshite.
None of it made sense at that point.

Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:05 am to S1C EM
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You are certainly correct. But we also have the benefit of hindsight now, something no one had in the beginning. So given all of the panic over what people were seeing in the first few months, what would you have them do? It's an honest question. I'm pretty sure everybody on this board was guilty of hoarding toilet paper right off the bat, so there was a level of hysteria that had taken everyone for a ride. This board was littered with horror stories in the early days. It's like everyone conveniently forgot
I work in healthcare and I can agree to a certain extentsith what you’re saying, but……
From the beginning of this the government left no room for discussion from any healthcare scientist that went even slightly against the grain of what the CDC spit out and a lot of what they did put out was utter nonsense and garbage science, especially to people working in labs who knew enough to know what was ridiculous. Covid, especially the first two strains, did kill a lot of
folks. The majority of whom had a co-morbidity known or unknown to them at the time they got sick. There are other viruses that do the same. There have been some admissions of overreaction by a few , but the “what else could we have done” argument is weak when you consider the lack of scientific debate allowed at the beginning of the nightmare and the use of the disease for political advantage.
This post was edited on 3/2/24 at 9:47 am
Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:18 am to Walt OReilly
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6 ft apart
I'm ok with people staying 6ft away from me. Was good with it prior to COVID.
Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:20 am to Walt OReilly
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Essential workers only
One thing we did learn from COVID. 80% of government workers didn't come to work and NO ONE NOTICED. The government services still worked just fine.
Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:22 am to loogaroo
Makes sense….the disease has just become a very bad cold, and should be treated as such.
Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:27 am to LSUgusto
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In this moment the public health risks of not protesting to demand an end to systemic racism greatly exceed the harms of the virus.”
The wildest and most unserious thing of the entire pandemic
You can’t mourn your dead family members at a funeral or hold their hand as they die in a hospital. You can watch them die on an iPad scared and alone
Butttttt you can stand shoulder to shoulder with thousands of people taking up entire city blocks to protest racism.
Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:30 am to tigerbaiter
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From the beginning of this the government left no room for discussion from any healthcare scientist that went even slightly against the grain of what the CDC spit out and a lot of what they did put out was utter nonsense and garbage science. Especially to people working in labs who knew enough to know what was ridiculous. Covid, especially the first two strains, did kill a lot of
folks. The majority of whom had a co-morbidity known or unknown to them at the time they got sick. There are other viruses that do the same. There have been some admissions of overreaction by a few . But the “what else could we have done” argument is weak when you consider the lack of scientific debate allowed at the beginning of the nightmare and the use of the disease for political advantage.
Not in disagreement with you. My wife works in healthcare also, so I saw a lot from her perspective. But I still think what we witnessed in the early phase was a reaction to what we could confirm was happening in real-time and a lack of any real plan to curb it conceived before it hit.
It was a clusterfrick of thought among officials trying to find SOMETHING they could say that would quell the mass panic taking place and prevent total anarchy. I think they saw that as a legitimate potential outcome and we know that doesn't fly. So issuing all of their guidance was them doing something in their minds. I think we can all agree that most of it was unhelpful (some of it downright ludicrous), but I don't think they felt there was adequate time to entertain a debate as things were transpiring. They started with the most restrictive measures they could and decided it best to loosen those as they figured out more along the way. I'm not saying it was the right way to handle it. I just think there would be criticism regardless of which way they opted to go with it.
Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:44 am to S1C EM
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So you're not clear on the difference between a "novel" pathogen and one that is no longer......."novel?" Got it.
That’s cause it was NEVER a novel virus, it was a synthesized, genetically engineered virus. The health “professionals” were out there chasing their own tails and pontificating as if they were the alpha & omega. When in reality their superiors knew exactly what this was and still abetted the lie that it was zoonotic.
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SARS2 possesses a furin cleavage site, found in NONE of the other 871 known members of its viral family, so it cannot have gained such a site through the ordinary evolutionary swaps of genetic material within a family. The DEFUSE proposal called for inserting one. As is now known, the DEFUSE procedure was to assemble the viral genome from six DNA sections, which would account for the even spacing of the restriction enzyme recognition sites in SARS2. Despite intensive search, no precursors for SARS2 have been found in the natural world. Given the 2018 date of the DEFUSE proposal, the researchers in Wuhan could have synthesized the virus by 2019, accounting perfectly for the otherwise unexplained timing of the Covid-19 pandemic as well as its place of origin.
The Story of the Decade
This post was edited on 3/2/24 at 9:46 am
Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:47 am to cajuntiger1010
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Covid & all the crap the CDC pushed divided this country so deepy. This country is noticeably different than pre covid
Entire generations will never view the medical community without skepticism post Covid.
Irreparable harm was done to the reputation of the CDC, AMA and the perception of vaccines because of what happened around the 2020 election cycle with Covid.
They lied about every single facet of the infection, their protocols and the vaccine and are just slow trickling out the truth now that people have moved on.
Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:53 am to S1C EM
[quote]It was a clusterfrick of thought among officials trying to find SOMETHING they could say that would quell the mass panic taking place and prevent total anarchy.
And they responded to panic (which they in all honesty fueled at every turn)with a panic response? Not a good look for the people who are supposed to be in charge and on top of these types of situations.
And they responded to panic (which they in all honesty fueled at every turn)with a panic response? Not a good look for the people who are supposed to be in charge and on top of these types of situations.
Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:53 am to loogaroo
I wonder if Dolly Parton feels stupid now, for donating a big million to Moderna.
95% effective.
95% effective.
Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:57 am to Lawyered
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The wildest and most unserious thing of the entire pandemic
You can’t mourn your dead family members at a funeral or hold their hand as they die in a hospital. You can watch them die on an iPad scared and alone
Butttttt you can stand shoulder to shoulder with thousands of people taking up entire city blocks to protest racism.
All they were doing at that point was showing you what power they had. They knew all along COVID was a political tool. These steps furthered that.
Democrats want there to be separate rules for themselves and their voters. They flexed that muscle hard during COVID.
Post Covid, they are doing things like releasing violent criminals and replacing them with "right wing" voters for whatever reasons they can make up.
At least Biden became President. Now the world respects us, right?
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