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re: Calling MD's/Med Students

Posted on 7/21/16 at 11:54 am to
Posted by Winkface
Member since Jul 2010
34377 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 11:54 am to
There aren't many words to explain how giant. I dream about giving two big middle fingers to almost everyone at graduation.
Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
21001 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 11:55 am to
Then you get to study for the boards. Wifey took them Tuesday.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33833 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 11:57 am to
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Why not? I can't imagine the majority of PA and NP students that I've worked with passing step 1, and they can't all be bad.


Carribean MD school, failed USLME 2x. I doubt her GPA puts her anywhere close to the top of PA/NP school applicants. She'd have trouble getting into PA school in the first place.

What's she going to say at her PA school interview when they ask her why she gave up on medical school? "Well I'm a Carribean med student that failed the USLME twice so I figure I'd try this PA thing out." Can't imagine that going over well with admission interviewers.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:00 pm to
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now she said she wants to be an emergency room doctor.


last resort.

at least she is realistic.

time for her to get over wanting to be somewhere in particular for residency and apply deep into 3rd tier programs.

she should pay someone to mentor her and do a serious prep for the re-take of step one and for step 2. She is going to need to be balanced and resourceful at a time when most people would be chewing off their fingernails.

prayer and affirmative statements from you. abundance. there is plenty for us. I am always going to be supportive.
the emotional component is now as big as getting mentoring.

Posted by Winkface
Member since Jul 2010
34377 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:01 pm to
Congrats to her.
Posted by stniaSxuaeG
Member since Apr 2014
1600 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:06 pm to
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Depending on the field, she'll have the option to apply for fellowships and, AFIK, they wont ask for step one scores for fellowships.
They ask for USMLE scores for fellowship applications.
Posted by sloopy
Member since Aug 2009
6898 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:06 pm to
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Then you get to study for the boards. Wifey took them Tuesday.


Congrats to your wife. Mine just took hers a month ago and found out she passed them last week. What a relief.
Posted by Murtown
OT Ballerville
Member since Sep 2014
1733 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:08 pm to
I know a guy who is not the brightest crayon in the box and he graduated from PA school. He had to go to Alabama to get into one but he graduated. I can guarantee he wouldn't be able to pass this step exam. His brother posts here a lot so if he's reading this, don't tell him about the crayon thing haha.
Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
21001 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:09 pm to
Thanks
Posted by Lithium
Member since Dec 2004
63650 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:11 pm to
FRom the Carribean it will be pretty hard to get anything outside FP/IM/peds
Posted by stniaSxuaeG
Member since Apr 2014
1600 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:15 pm to
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Even if she gets through Step 1, she will still have Step 2 , Step 3 (which is 2 parts and expensive), and Step 4 during her residency
Step 2 is two parts, and you take step 3 during residency.

There is no step 4. Usually it's just boards after that.
Posted by donRANDOMnumbers
Hub City
Member since Nov 2006
17201 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:23 pm to
Surgery is the only one I've heard more strenuous than OBGYN. She was also chief this past year.

My wife would have done a Gyn-Onc fellowship if I'd allowed. Told her I was done moving and shed have to go by herself. And I was keeping the baby. So she is joining a private practice instead.

She's an amazing surgeon tho. Won some awards with her residency for it.
This post was edited on 7/21/16 at 12:24 pm
Posted by stniaSxuaeG
Member since Apr 2014
1600 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:25 pm to
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Starting next year (again, as i understand it), there will be specific interventional radiology track you will have to match into for residency and they will transition away from it being a fellowship based program.
It was included in the match this past year for the first time.
Posted by GEAUXT
Member since Nov 2007
30131 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:27 pm to
Well, you're a dick
Posted by KarlMalonesFlipPhone
Member since Sep 2015
3848 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:29 pm to
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OBGYN


quote:

An amazing surgeon


That would be a first


Posted by CrimsonTideMD
Member since Dec 2010
6997 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:31 pm to
Also, IMHO, Step 1 was the most difficult exam I've ever taken.

Step 2 and 3 were considerably easier. Even my board was easier.

So if she can manage to clear this hurdle, she might just make it.
Posted by Yellerhammer5
Member since Oct 2012
10891 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:32 pm to
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Surgery is the only one I've heard more strenuous than OBGYN.


A lot of the stress involved with OBGYN residency is the attendings and residents all being massive counts.
Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
21001 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:33 pm to
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Surgery is the only one I've heard more strenuous than OBGYN. She was also chief this past year.

My wife would have done a Gyn-Onc fellowship if I'd allowed. Told her I was done moving and shed have to go by herself. And I was keeping the baby. So she is joining a private practice instead.

She's an amazing surgeon tho. Won some awards with her residency for it.



I hear you. My wife did her fellowship in Boston while I stayed in NYC. Like a dumbass, I knock her up as soon as she moves to Boston. I was fortunate that my job let me work part time from home, which allowed me to split time between Boston and NYC for a year. She had 3 months left of the fellowship after she delivered. Surgeons are nuts. She only took two weeks off after delivering because she was ready to finish the fellowship.
Posted by KarlMalonesFlipPhone
Member since Sep 2015
3848 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:34 pm to
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lot of the stress involved with OBGYN residency is the attendings and residents all being massive counts.


This.
Posted by TigerRad
Columbia, SC
Member since Jan 2007
5357 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:35 pm to
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Is this an advanced/difficult field?


used to be, but other specialties have poached all the good (and high$) procedures in many places. Cardiologists, vascular surgeons, ortho etc all have first shot at the patients, so its theirs for the taking. There are neurologists that go do brief fellowships and come back calling themselves "neuro-interventionalist", and take all the cases the radiologist with 7 years of training was doing.

Its not like this everywhere, but IR guys now are frequently stuck doing messy or difficult or low paying procedures all day. (vascular access, placing lines, declotting grafts (although kidney docs are poaching even that now), draining pus, ct guided biopsies that were too hard or risky for the pulmonologist etc etc etc.)

Its depressing to see what this innovative and exciting specialty has devolved into.

quote:

Is he gonna make bank?



The variation from place to place is too wide to answer this. If less than 300k, hes doing something wrong.
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