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re: BREC Golf system losing over $1 million a year

Posted on 2/25/14 at 10:24 am to
Posted by toca16
Member since Feb 2014
245 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 10:24 am to
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if still run by brec



Ding ding ding... here it is folks.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
37668 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 10:25 am to
Is there anything BRCG runs that is worth a damn? CATS, BREC, EBR school system? They're all fricked up!!

Starting to understand the push for City of SG now.
Posted by The Sad Banana
The gate is narrow.
Member since Jul 2008
89507 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 10:28 am to
I'm fuzzy on what would happen to Santa Maria if it offered memberships and went private/semi-private. I think Santa Maria is a great value for BR golf. But if that course raises fees, I probably won't play it much. Not to mention whenever I play I look for deals on greens fees anyway.
This post was edited on 2/25/14 at 10:29 am
Posted by toca16
Member since Feb 2014
245 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 10:28 am to
quote:

Starting to understand the push for City of SG now.


you see the light
Posted by toca16
Member since Feb 2014
245 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 10:29 am to
I know the GM, I can always ask.
Posted by theBeard
Member since Jul 2011
6739 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 10:29 am to
quote:

Is there anything BRCG runs that is worth a damn? CATS, BREC, EBR school system? They're all fricked up!!

Starting to understand the push for City of SG now.


NOPE! All the examples are there for viewing. These are the things that make me angry when moving back to BR.
Posted by Tayday
Lake Charles. LA
Member since Mar 2011
5522 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 10:32 am to
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1700 for an annual 7 day 7 course pass


141 bucks a month for all you can play is a steal....so if they offered an exclusive card to play beaver or sm, i dont think i'd expect it to be much cheaper

You understand those plans don't include the cart right? It's $625 a year for the cart plan. So it's $2325 a year for that pass.
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61451 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 10:32 am to
i really think brec is run solid compared to most other parts of the government



i'm sure there are other cities all around that have city/parish owned golf facilities that operate in the red considerably

BREC is getting a bad rep here though when its an epidemic



if BREC closes golf courses, they will find some other way to utilize the land, turn it into other parks, etc.

those other parks have maintenance costs also, with little to no revenue

so they will probably just drive BREC further into the red
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61451 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 10:34 am to
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You understand those plans don't include the cart right? It's $625 a year for the cart plan. So it's $2325 a year for that pass.


yes, i understand

its still a steal at 200 bucks a month......not everyone rides anyway



a cart at BREC is 12 bucks typically, so I'd probably avoid the cart plan considering it would take 52 rounds of golf to recoup the cost



many private clubs offer membership and cart plans separately FWIW
This post was edited on 2/25/14 at 10:35 am
Posted by FloridaMike
Member since Dec 2012
1524 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 10:36 am to
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So how does Florida do it? Seems like they have a golf course every couple of miles no matter what part of the state your in. An even better example myrtle beach? That city has more courses than neighborhoods it seems like.
There are 110 golf courses within a 45 mile radius of Orlando. The secret is that our courses are all privately owned and are generally built inside of neighborhoods big enough to support "their" course. That and it seems like everyone plays golf, I don't know of a single person who doesn't at least have a set of clubs.
Posted by Tayday
Lake Charles. LA
Member since Mar 2011
5522 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 10:38 am to
I don't know how many high rollers or old dudes you know who have memberships at Santa Maria that just want to walk.
Posted by ASTL
In a cubicle
Member since Jan 2014
757 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 10:39 am to
Hey don't mess with Clark. I like the driving range and it's the closest one to central.

And I suck. So course condition matters none
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61451 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 10:41 am to
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I don't know how many high rollers or old dudes you know who have memberships at Santa Maria that just want to walk.


im not saying that many do, but the fact that the golf and cart is separate gives people the option


why do they have to be old or high rollers anyway?

you have to be a high roller to spend 1700 bucks a year for a golf membership?

the real high rollers are all in CCL or BRCC
Posted by theBeard
Member since Jul 2011
6739 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 10:41 am to
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There are 110 golf courses within a 45 mile radius of Orlando.


how many of those courses make money?
Posted by dpd901
South Louisiana
Member since Apr 2011
7833 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 10:42 am to
Guys, I'm an outsider here, having only played Samta Maria, but 1 million dollars over 4 or 5 golf courses doesn't seem like a huge problem to fix...

A few dollars in revenue/round and find a few efficiencies in operations and boom... You're even,

How many rounds/yr are played on all of these courses combined? Got to be 200,000?
Posted by Jarlaxle
Calimport
Member since Dec 2010
2876 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 10:44 am to
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NOPE. I feel like I am trying to play with idiots there most of the time.



Not to mention all of the blue jeans!
Posted by EyeOfTheTiger311
Lafayette, LA
Member since Aug 2005
4593 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 10:45 am to
Can't believe BeaverPRO hasn't weighed in on this yet
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61451 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 10:46 am to
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but 1 million dollars over 4 or 5 golf courses doesn't seem like a huge problem to fix...


i agree


running 7 facilities on only a 1 million dollar deficit is pretty good for government
Posted by Tayday
Lake Charles. LA
Member since Mar 2011
5522 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 10:46 am to
Right but I'm saying high rollers by BREC standards. Still paying $200 a month to be a member of a public course with no other benefits is sort of steep IMO.
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61451 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 10:48 am to
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Can't believe BeaverPRO hasn't weighed in on this yet


jbgleason is BeaverPRO's alter

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