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Posted on 12/13/15 at 1:16 pm to yankeeundercover
Full disclosure, I am Sigma Chi from a smaller school and have some knowledge of the national organization's operation via friends that work at HQ.
From my point of view, this shite should have been done much longer ago.
As has been long noted on this board the present-day culture at that LSU Chapter, in particular, has been freaking abysmal and those guys have been hanging from a thread for a while now, but they have been saved basically by the financial support of its alumni. Even moreso after they were given an opportunity by nationals to turn it around after the prior death of Zibilich and the efforts of his family and chapter alumni to create a suicide prevention program, Lifeline, for the International Fraternity.
The weird thing with most fraternities, you don't see these issues at the smaller campuses for the most part, but at your Power 5 campuses or those chapters that have been around over 100 years and the kids there think they are above all authority even from the national organization until it is too late. The Sigma Chi original chapter at Miami (Ohio), for instance, has been shuttered on two separate occasions due to this stuff. The Wisconsin chapter is full of tool bags, but are hanging on thread because of alumni pockets. LSU has been long overdue.
The national organizations are trying -- too late some might add -- to change the culture of fraternities on a local level and if they do not comply, the whole system will be done and over within the next 20 years. Not just Sigma Chi, but all of them...especially SAE right now given their three big blunders over the last year at chapters. So in a sense, all of them are hanging by a thread as well.
I can't trash the Greek system. I went to a small school where if you weren't Greek you weren't shite. Joined Sigma Chi, had a blast, got laid a lot, made some of my best friends in life and it has helped further my career. But times they are a changing.
From my point of view, this shite should have been done much longer ago.
As has been long noted on this board the present-day culture at that LSU Chapter, in particular, has been freaking abysmal and those guys have been hanging from a thread for a while now, but they have been saved basically by the financial support of its alumni. Even moreso after they were given an opportunity by nationals to turn it around after the prior death of Zibilich and the efforts of his family and chapter alumni to create a suicide prevention program, Lifeline, for the International Fraternity.
The weird thing with most fraternities, you don't see these issues at the smaller campuses for the most part, but at your Power 5 campuses or those chapters that have been around over 100 years and the kids there think they are above all authority even from the national organization until it is too late. The Sigma Chi original chapter at Miami (Ohio), for instance, has been shuttered on two separate occasions due to this stuff. The Wisconsin chapter is full of tool bags, but are hanging on thread because of alumni pockets. LSU has been long overdue.
The national organizations are trying -- too late some might add -- to change the culture of fraternities on a local level and if they do not comply, the whole system will be done and over within the next 20 years. Not just Sigma Chi, but all of them...especially SAE right now given their three big blunders over the last year at chapters. So in a sense, all of them are hanging by a thread as well.
I can't trash the Greek system. I went to a small school where if you weren't Greek you weren't shite. Joined Sigma Chi, had a blast, got laid a lot, made some of my best friends in life and it has helped further my career. But times they are a changing.
Posted on 12/13/15 at 1:31 pm to Knocksville
It was my understanding that they had been turning things around. A few purges by nationals and most of the chapter was not a problem. But I guess a few dumbasses remained.
The ones supposedly doing drugs in the house were immediately kicked out and LSU informed. What more should you do? Idk.
But then I heard LSU or nationals wanted hair testing on everybody. At that point, they weren't looking for just stuff done on campus.
I don't do drugs but I would have told them to kiss my arse at that point. That's a little too intrusive into a student's life and possibly stuff that keeps you out of Med school, law school, etc. down the road, depending on what happened with those results.
Not worth it.
The ones supposedly doing drugs in the house were immediately kicked out and LSU informed. What more should you do? Idk.
But then I heard LSU or nationals wanted hair testing on everybody. At that point, they weren't looking for just stuff done on campus.
I don't do drugs but I would have told them to kiss my arse at that point. That's a little too intrusive into a student's life and possibly stuff that keeps you out of Med school, law school, etc. down the road, depending on what happened with those results.
Not worth it.
Posted on 12/13/15 at 1:51 pm to Ryan3232
quote:
a fraternity should not be criticized of drug doings because of someone doing drugs at their own house on their own time by themself. WAFB can suck a big one for how they wrote that story. And FTR, i have nothing to do with sigma chi, I just hate when a respected media outlet gets the story wrong.
You're entitled to your opinion, even if it's wrong.
Posted on 12/13/15 at 2:10 pm to touchdownjeebus
quote:
can't be kicked off, lulz. They own the house and the property it is on...
They have been kicked off before.
Posted on 12/13/15 at 2:13 pm to Knocksville
quote:
Full disclosure, I am Sigma Chi from a smaller school and have some knowledge of the national organization's operation via friends that work at HQ.
From my point of view, this shite should have been done much longer ago.
As has been long noted on this board the present-day culture at that LSU Chapter, in particular, has been freaking abysmal and those guys have been hanging from a thread for a while now, but they have been saved basically by the financial support of its alumni. Even moreso after they were given an opportunity by nationals to turn it around after the prior death of Zibilich and the efforts of his family and chapter alumni to create a suicide prevention program, Lifeline, for the International Fraternity.
The weird thing with most fraternities, you don't see these issues at the smaller campuses for the most part, but at your Power 5 campuses or those chapters that have been around over 100 years and the kids there think they are above all authority even from the national organization until it is too late. The Sigma Chi original chapter at Miami (Ohio), for instance, has been shuttered on two separate occasions due to this stuff. The Wisconsin chapter is full of tool bags, but are hanging on thread because of alumni pockets. LSU has been long overdue.
The national organizations are trying -- too late some might add -- to change the culture of fraternities on a local level and if they do not comply, the whole system will be done and over within the next 20 years. Not just Sigma Chi, but all of them...especially SAE right now given their three big blunders over the last year at chapters. So in a sense, all of them are hanging by a thread as well.
I can't trash the Greek system. I went to a small school where if you weren't Greek you weren't shite. Joined Sigma Chi, had a blast, got laid a lot, made some of my best friends in life and it has helped further my career. But times they are a changing.
Get rid of them all. Every greek letter out there. There are some good people in frats and sororities but they are outnumbered 10:1 at least.
Posted on 12/13/15 at 2:26 pm to sullivanct19a
Show us on doll the where the Greek alphabet didn't touch you.
Posted on 12/13/15 at 2:34 pm to sullivanct19a
quote:
Get rid of them all. Every greek letter out there. There are some good people in frats and sororities but they are outnumbered 10:1 at least.
so someone banged your ol lady eh? Way to cry like a bitch about itPosted on 12/13/15 at 2:44 pm to Jim Rockford
quote:Sure, LSU can no longer acknowledge them as a fraternity in good standing, but they can *make* them sell their house or remove their letters.
They have been kicked off before.
They're the only fraternity at LSU with that kind of juice...
Posted on 12/13/15 at 3:24 pm to Knocksville
quote:
The national organizations are trying -- too late some might add -- to change the culture of fraternities on a local level and if they do not comply, the whole system will be done and over within the next 20 years. Not just Sigma Chi, but all of them...especially SAE right now given their three big blunders over the last year at chapters. So in a sense, all of them are hanging by a thread as well.
People that are involved with nationals of fraternity are the biggest collection of no fun cheese dicks on planet. Chapters don't listen to them because they are unlikable douchebags that fit the "buying friends" trope to a T
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