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re: Breaking: A second health care worker has tested positive for Ebola in Dallas
Posted on 10/15/14 at 6:44 am to Ace Midnight
Posted on 10/15/14 at 6:44 am to Ace Midnight
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We need the entire world for customs to deny entry to the U.S. anyone holding a West African passport?
Or a stamp from a West African country on their passport. Its not that hard to do.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 6:45 am to Pilot Tiger
Seriously, frick that Duncan guy. I don't want to hear some sob story of how he caught it trying to help se pregnant girl. He knowingly and greedily brought that shot here, and now we're dealing with the consequences
frick that guy
frick that guy
Posted on 10/15/14 at 6:45 am to Ace Midnight
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We need the entire world for customs to deny entry to the U.S. anyone holding a West African passport?
Stop with your logic on the O-T
Posted on 10/15/14 at 6:46 am to Pilot Tiger
quote:so, the two nurses in Dallas would still have gotten infected if people from ebola-stricken areas were prohibited from traveling into the US????
a travel ban will literally do nothing to prevent further outbreaks in the US
Posted on 10/15/14 at 6:46 am to elprez00
quote:you're essentially nuking an ant hill
Hindsight? WTF? "Oh theres an outbreak of Ebola in West Africa" "Welp, we better not let anyone travel to or from there enter the United States." How in the hell is that hindsight?
Duncan lied to get here.
people will lie to get here
Posted on 10/15/14 at 6:47 am to Pilot Tiger
You're typically an intelligent poster around here, but on this topic you are as wrong as wrong gets.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 6:47 am to Pilot Tiger
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so if some joe shmo with a Liberian passport has been living in China for the last 10 years, he cant come to America now?
Until the outbreak is under control? Certainly. I have zero problems with that.
The issue would be additional screening to catch non-West Africans traveling back from there - international relief efforts, etc. But that should be a much smaller, more manageable number.
I'm not saying it's perfect - perfect is the enemy of the good. What wasn't good (and has obviously bitten us) was just leaving everything open - essentially unlimited, unscreened entry from wherever.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 6:47 am to Chicken
quote:again captain hindsight over here
so, the two nurses in Dallas would still have gotten infected if people from ebola-stricken areas were prohibited from traveling into the US????
a travel ban NOW will not prevent the 2 nurses from having contracted it
i think we can all agree on that
Posted on 10/15/14 at 6:47 am to Pilot Tiger
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so if some joe shmo with a Liberian passport has been living in China for the last 10 years, he cant come to America now?
You have a better chance of contracting Ebola than this scenario
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people will lie to get here
By the time you go through the channels to possibly get here if you have big E, your arse is grass
This post was edited on 10/15/14 at 6:49 am
Posted on 10/15/14 at 6:47 am to Ace Midnight
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It will prevent new infections coming in from West Africa, though, right?
I mean, had a travel ban been in place, Duncan would have been turned away and wouldn't have had the opportunity to infect now 2 American citizens, correct?
Wrong...he didn't fly in from Africa, he's flew in from Brussels.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 6:48 am to Pilot Tiger
You can't lie your way out of a passport stamp.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 6:48 am to Rickety Cricket
quote:because all countries stamp passports
You can't lie your way out of a passport stamp.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 6:48 am to RollTide1987
I would've already stopped all travel from Africa to here. Obama, like usual, is going to wait until it's too late.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 6:48 am to Pilot Tiger
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a travel ban NOW will not prevent the 2 nurses from having contracted it i think we can all agree on that
I agree with that, but until this problem is under control, we should temporarily restrict air travel.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 6:49 am to Pilot Tiger
The Dictators in the African countries have stopped travel from these countries but our Dictator won't do it. Go Figure.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 6:49 am to Pilot Tiger
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a travel ban NOW will not prevent the 2 nurses from having contracted it
Pilot - we're talking about crisis management. OBVIOUSLY it's not a magic pill to make the 2 infected nurses better.
It's to prevent ADDITIONAL lying Duncans from getting in and ending up infecting nurses in a hospital in Boston, or Hartford or Portland.
Am I getting through to you at all?
Posted on 10/15/14 at 6:50 am to Pilot Tiger
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Duncan lied to get here.
people will lie to get here
Yet in Duncan's case, his lie would've been irrelevant had travel restrictions been in place. They asked him "Have you been in contact with anyone with Ebola?" "Nope." "Okay, welcome to America."
If the rule is noone currently residing in or that has been to Liberia within the last X Days can enter the country, Duncan could've said whatever he wanted to and still not ended up in a Dallas hospital.
So if Unduku from Liberia thats been living in China for the last 10 years can't come to the US for a few months for vacation in order to prevent the possible spread and outbreak of a deadly disease, then so be it.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 6:51 am to Restomod
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Wrong...he didn't fly in from Africa, he's flew in from Brussels.
With...a...Liberian...passport.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 6:52 am to Pilot Tiger
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otherwise people will just leave west africa and come here from somewhere else
Come on Pilot, you're just being argumentative. Of course thar can happen but it also increases the likelihood they get interceptedin this countries.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 6:52 am to Ace Midnight
quote:I understand the intent of restricting air travel
It's to prevent ADDITIONAL lying Duncans from getting in and ending up infecting nurses in a hospital in Boston, or Hartford or Portland.
I just don't think it would do anything to prevent further infections in the US, UNLESS, the entire world agrees to it
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