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re: BLM leader rides scooter thru vigil for Charlie Kirk last night shouting "f Charlie Kirk

Posted on 9/11/25 at 9:28 am to
Posted by klrstix
Shreveport, LA
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 9/11/25 at 9:28 am to
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Because many of them have nothing to live for. They’re empty vessels.

I would add that their vessel is filled to the brim with hate.


This... there is no such thing as an "empty" vessel because nature cannot tolerate a vacuum... if its not filled with the right things then its filled with the wrong things...

Posted by Tiger Prawn
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Posted on 9/11/25 at 9:38 am to
Posted by facher08
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 9/11/25 at 9:39 am to
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none of it should make anyone happy… there is plenty to be pissed off about. But completely fabricating a headline to drum up extra rage is retarded shite leftist do and should be called out every time it happens


100% this. During this last pendulum swing, right-leaning people correctly pushed back against those that supposedly espoused tolerance and free speech virtues and called them out for practicing those tenets only on those with whom they agree. Many of those same people are now calling for blood. The hypocrisy could not be any clearer.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 9/11/25 at 9:41 am to
Counterpoint:

Should the right care about hypocrisy? We've tried neutrality, and this is the result. If you create a level playing field of sorts, and you more or less play in accordance with the rules and your opponent absolutely does not, you're losing. It's just a matter of how quickly.
Posted by SludgeFactory
Middle of Nowhere
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Posted on 9/11/25 at 9:44 am to
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Would be wonderful if we started holding up their official positions to the heads of the hundreds of companies that gave them money for their grift and asking if that's what they believe and support.


This is the way
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
7893 posts
Posted on 9/11/25 at 9:49 am to
We are talking about a black guy happy about this. The house bet would be he is a legit anti-White racist. You may not like it, but can’t hide it. No matter how much you’d want to.

Stop covering up for this garbage.
Posted by RicoSuave2025
Member since Jan 2025
276 posts
Posted on 9/11/25 at 9:50 am to
And he wasn’t shot and killed. Exhibit A-for the lunatic left on how you disagree with someone’s views and you don’t kill them. Exhibit B- no riots today destroying others property bc we are upset. And finally, Exhibit C- conservatives across the country went to work today as we do every day. The distinction between good and evil is very clear.
Posted by i am dan
NC
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Posted on 9/11/25 at 9:50 am to
Would rather him go to the morgue than the hospital.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 9/11/25 at 9:52 am to
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Should the right care about hypocrisy?

The trans folks think killing kids is justified. They think someone who recites basic biology is preaching violence. The right should care about defending themselves from a demographic of freaks and authoritarians who want to scare the populace into accepting their delusion as facts.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 9/11/25 at 9:55 am to
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Looks like he got some of the beat down he deserved.


He might have rode in on a scooter but he should have been carried out in an ambulance.
Posted by facher08
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
6098 posts
Posted on 9/11/25 at 10:03 am to
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Should the right care about hypocrisy? We've tried neutrality, and this is the result.


Absolutely, but forget the right/left dichotomy. Avoiding hypocrisy is critical for uphold a person's individual integrity.

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If you create a level playing field of sorts, and you more or less play in accordance with the rules and your opponent absolutely does not, you're losing. It's just a matter of how quickly.


Are we still only talking about speech, or something more? If we're talking about speech, I don't think standing on principle is losing at all. We can see evidence of this with postmodern nonsense beginning to fall out of favor. It obviously isn't going to be a clean and immediate break. Yesterday is a clear example of that, but I don't think the answer is to burn it all down and fight fire with fire.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 9/11/25 at 10:05 am to
What's their official twitter account?
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 9/11/25 at 10:08 am to
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This post was edited on 9/11/25 at 10:12 am
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87384 posts
Posted on 9/11/25 at 10:14 am to
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Absolutely, but forget the right/left dichotomy. Avoiding hypocrisy is critical for uphold a person's individual integrity.



Fair, but so much of what comes up in this discussion doesn't hinge on actual hypocrisy. I should have said "allegations of hypocrisy."

It's hypocritical to advocate for the marketplace of ideas and then claim the left shouldn't be allowed to speak. It's not hypocritical to say that speech reflecting my ideology should be allowed but speech outside of it should not. It's illiberal, but it's not hypocritical.

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Are we still only talking about speech, or something more? If we're talking about speech, I don't think standing on principle is losing at all. We can see evidence of this with postmodern nonsense beginning to fall out of favor. It obviously isn't going to be a clean and immediate break. Yesterday is a clear example of that, but I don't think the answer is to burn it all down and fight fire with fire.



We're probably talking about the liberal order as a whole. To me, liberalism is a method, not an ideology in and of itself. Which is probably where I diverge from a lot of Republicans and centrists. I like liberalism as a concept and believe it's allowed a certain degree of flourishing, but it's not a guiding belief set for me. And its effectiveness is being eroded by allowing people who are illiberal to enjoy its benefits while abusing those who uphold it, raising questions among the right as to its continuing utility.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17593 posts
Posted on 9/11/25 at 10:17 am to
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And he wasn’t shot and killed. Exhibit A-for the lunatic left on how you disagree with someone’s views and you don’t kill them.


I get what you're saying, but in this very thread, there's multiple people cheering on violence for the guy.
Posted by RicoSuave2025
Member since Jan 2025
276 posts
Posted on 9/11/25 at 10:26 am to
Hardly an argument. One person is dead for his views and one is not. If you don’t see that difference you are on the side of evil.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17593 posts
Posted on 9/11/25 at 10:32 am to
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Hardly an argument. One person is dead for his views and one is not. If you don’t see that difference you are on the side of evil.


When you cheer on someone being beaten to the point of needing hospitalization, do you not think that can result in someone dying?
Posted by facher08
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
6098 posts
Posted on 9/11/25 at 10:50 am to
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It's not hypocritical to say that speech reflecting my ideology should be allowed but speech outside of it should not. It's illiberal, but it's not hypocritical.


Fair enough. I'd say only allowing or speech reflecting one's own views is not in the best interest of building any sort of societal understanding, and the unwillingness or incapability to steelman opposing viewpoints is becoming an unhealthy issue.

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I like liberalism as a concept and believe it's allowed a certain degree of flourishing, but it's not a guiding belief set for me. And its effectiveness is being eroded by allowing people who are illiberal to enjoy its benefits while abusing those who uphold it


No argument here.

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raising questions among the right as to its continuing utility.


It's been hijacked, basterdized, or outright ignored by leftists to the point where it isn't recognizable to its original form. For this reason, I see the liberalism of Locke and Smith as something completely different than what has manifested more recently.
Posted by TheGooner
Baton Rouwage
Member since Jul 2016
1262 posts
Posted on 9/11/25 at 10:50 am to
It literally took like 5 seconds to find him on the BLM Grassroots of Idaho page.

He was also convicted in 2021 of defacing an Abraham Lincoln statue in Boise.

Posted by krewerider
Member since Sep 2009
1001 posts
Posted on 9/11/25 at 10:59 am to
They should have let the crowd finish....save on the paperwork
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