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re: Big Cold Blast Coming - Round 2

Posted on 12/13/17 at 7:34 am to
Posted by Devil_doge
DFW
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Posted on 12/13/17 at 7:34 am to
Great, that's right when I'll be driving back from Dallas to Kansas City with my wife.
Posted by MottLaneKid
Gonzales
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 12/13/17 at 7:35 am to
Massive upper ridge over West Coast lends to cold northerly flow over southern plains with hint of subtropical jet over south Texas and gulf coast near the 24/26th. Impulses in jet would imply cloudy/wet conditions near 24/26th
This post was edited on 12/13/17 at 7:37 am
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
Member since Oct 2011
41578 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:04 am to
More model shifts. This time in our favor (for those of us who want cold/ice on Christmas)!!!



Noon on Christmas Day:
This post was edited on 12/13/17 at 8:08 am
Posted by BigB0882
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
5308 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:46 am to
The 6z Euro output is absolutely terrifying for Baton Rouge. An inch of rain on the 24th with temps hovering barely above freezing, and you can usually bet on the temps coming down as models don't usually do well with the cold. Then on the 26th, again another inch+ of rain with temps in the 30s. Right now it is all rain but a slight deviation in temps and you have mayhem. This place would be shut down for days. The cold is not nearly deep enough for snow. Could you imagine if it was, we would be talking a foot of snow over those two days.

I am becoming more and more grateful to be in Florida over Christmas.
Posted by RidiculousHype
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2007
10201 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:48 am to
The previous GFS run had a crippling ice storm for most of Louisiana, lasting 48 hours or so. This one is showing a cold rain.

FWIW it's showing temps up high way too warm for snow, at this point.

Posted by TDsngumbo
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:51 am to
quote:

The cold is not nearly deep enough for snow. Could you imagine if it was, we would be talking a foot of snow over those two days.

Actually, much, MUCH more snow than a foot. If we were to get 2+ inches of rain, the snow:rain ratio is more like 10:1, meaning 2+ inches of rain would equate to roughly 20+ inches of snow.

If Baton Rouge were to get 2 feet of snowfall in one event, I'm pretty sure my pants would be one giant jizzball.
Posted by LaBR4
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
50799 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:55 am to
quote:

This time in our favor (for those of us who want cold/ice on Christmas)


Posted by BigB0882
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
5308 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:10 am to
I usually go with 5:1 ratios down here because the snow is usually so wet and heavy. But yes, with 10:1 ratios it would be 2 feet.

If it snows that much while I am out of state, I will never ever forgive myself. lol I don't want to be here for an ice storm or horrible cold but I don't ever want to miss snow!

All this being said, until the Euro comes on board then I am not even buying this extreme cold. The GFS has been insanely consistent and the Ensembles are in unusually good agreement for so far out. The Euro is just now getting into the time range where it can see this so it will be interesting to see if it picks up on anything. The NAM, which nailed our snow storm, is a very short model run so we can't use that until much closer to the event.
This post was edited on 12/13/17 at 9:12 am
Posted by CypressTrout10
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2016
3015 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:11 am to
Latest GFS run shows a big ice storm on Dec 22-23 for Louisiana
Posted by MottLaneKid
Gonzales
Member since Apr 2012
4543 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:12 am to
Brought to you by Ice Cold Dr. pepper here and Ice Cold Budddd !
Posted by CuseTiger
On the road
Member since Jul 2013
8202 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 10:09 am to
quote:

Latest GFS run shows a big ice storm on Dec 22-23 for Louisiana


Supposed to be flying home on the 23rd
Posted by LSUJuice
Back in Houston
Member since Apr 2004
17668 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 10:26 am to
Yeah that's my entire point... localized weather extremes are neither proof nor disproof of GW/climate change.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
66786 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 10:39 am to
should make Christmas travel interesting.


12/22: Houston > Baton Rouge
12/24: Baton Rouge > Bossier City
12/28: Bossier City > Hattiesburg, MS
1/1: Hattiesburg > Houston

Posted by DVinBR
Member since Jan 2013
12977 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 10:42 am to
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
Member since Oct 2011
41578 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 10:44 am to
I'm not convinced the cold air will be deep enough to support snow. If we get anything out of this, it will be the god awful freezing rain. That means it's time to start hurricane preps, guys. Except don't bother with the window unit AC's and instead gather firewood this time. Gonna be a whole lot of trees coming down causing power outages for a few days if we get more than a quarter inch of ice, which if the models are close to being correct, that's quite possible.


This post was edited on 12/13/17 at 10:47 am
Posted by CuseTiger
On the road
Member since Jul 2013
8202 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 10:46 am to
You should show the map at the [240] hour, its got a line of snow across Cenla and Houston area. But even with that picture you just posted, there's no way I'm making it from Nola to Dulles into Philly. Basically just flying up in the snowstorm the whole way
Posted by LSUJuice
Back in Houston
Member since Apr 2004
17668 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 10:46 am to
Latest run looks a lot different. Not nearly the ice storm from previous runs. And it's still just really really early.
Posted by RidiculousHype
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2007
10201 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 10:46 am to
12z GFS comes in much colder (at surface & up high), and much drier.

28 degrees and sunny on Christmas morning in BR
Posted by biggsc
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Posted on 12/13/17 at 10:47 am to
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
Member since Oct 2011
41578 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 10:48 am to
quote:

12z GFS comes in much colder (at surface & up high), and much drier.

28 degrees and sunny on Christmas morning in BR

I'll take that!
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