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re: Bermuda vs Centipede Seed
Posted on 6/6/17 at 9:33 am to TheCaterpillar
Posted on 6/6/17 at 9:33 am to TheCaterpillar
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What kind of grass would be best in Baton Rouge climate, for a side yard that sees little activity, has partial/low sun, and gets plenty of moisture?
St Augustine does the best around South LA for shady areas. But that stuff either likes it's spot or doesn't best I can tell. I had a shady lot in Mobile and got tired of replacing St Augustine. Out of desperation I tried Empire Zoysia and it thrived.
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Posted on 6/6/17 at 9:42 am to Earthquake 88
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I had a shady lot in Mobile and got tired of replacing St Augustine. Out of desperation I tried Empire Zoysia and it thrived.
Nice. Gonna give this a shot.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 9:48 am to daviddsims
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I noticed you can buy Zoysia seed but have never seen a yard with it in North LA.
Oh you've seen it but probably just didn't know that's what it was. I grew up in Ruston and it's on several golf courses and in people's yards. Some of that Zoysia looks somewhat similar to Centipede but it's a darker green. Most people can't afford to sod Zoysia. I bought 3 pallets of Empire Zoysia direct from a sod farm north of Orange Beach and it cost $350 a pallet. It's nice grass but slow going at first if you start from seed.
Hell go buy Bermuda, Centipede and Zoysia seed and throw them all out after you turn the soil over. Survival of the fittest.
I still think the best way to get a quick established yard before winter is to chop up sod into smaller pieces, stomp the pieces into the ground then throw seed out. Where I live across the bay in Mobile you can go direct to sod farms and buy pallets of Centipede or Common Burmuda for less than $100 per pallet. One pallet of say Centipede chopped up into smaller pieces and plugged in across your property will spread quickly.
This post was edited on 6/6/17 at 10:00 am
Posted on 6/6/17 at 9:52 am to daviddsims
I seeded my backyard with Bermuda and I hate it. It's aggressive and will spread quickly, but it is hard to maintain. My front yard was sodded with centipede when it was built. I would gladly fork out the extra cash to sod my backyard with the Centipede if I could do it over again.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 10:01 am to daviddsims
A N LA friend of mine is a second generation nurseryman/landscaper. Been doing it all his life. When asked for lawn grass recs the first thing out of his mouth is always Zoysia.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 10:03 am to Earthquake 88
If you're going to chop up sod, just get plugs. Plugs and sod are fundamentally different designed for different purposes.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 10:10 am to JoePepitone
I'm assuming zoysia is only sod or can you seed?
Posted on 6/6/17 at 10:11 am to daviddsims
I'm pretty sure you can seed it
Posted on 6/6/17 at 10:12 am to daviddsims
I know sod is available - not sure about seed.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 10:15 am to JoePepitone
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the first thing out of his mouth is always Zoysia.
It is a much prettier word than either Centipede or Bermuda.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 10:16 am to daviddsims
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I'm assuming zoysia is only sod or can you seed?
Both. Zoysia sod is substantially more expensive than the others. This is the OT though so I know cost is not an issue.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 10:33 am to jimbeam
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f you're going to chop up sod, just get plugs. Plugs and sod are fundamentally different designed for different purposes.
Yeah you are probably right. But I bought a pallet of Centipede for what I thought was cheap and cut them into squares and stomped them down with my boots into turned over soil and was amazed at how fast that stuff rooted up and spread. I had a sodded looking yard by the end of the summer.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 10:34 am to daviddsims
In my opinion (I ran a nursery and did landscaping for a number of years) I'd lay sod vs. seeding. It's more expensive, but the results will be better. It would take around 11 pallets of sod for 5k sq ft which would cost about $2800. If you have 1 or 2 people helping it can be done in a day. If you decide to go the seed route call a Hydro-seeding company. They spray the seed with a mixture of water, fertilizer, soil treatment chemicals, and often some sort of cellulose mulch. It's been a while since I've priced that but it was pretty cheap and you don't have to "prepare the ground" at all other than to make sure it's relatively flat and not the soil isn't too compacted.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 10:37 am to Earthquake 88
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Go with centipede. Bermuda gets too many weeds in it. Instead of seeding it buy some sod and chop it up with a shovel into smaller pieces and plug it. The grass will fill in quick.
I hate when people do this. It looks like crap, takes too long to "fill in", and there will still be gaps all over the place that you'll have to go back and fill. while the grass is growing, all the bare spots end up full of weeds which you have to deal with constantly. Just pony up the money to do a good job by laying sod everywhere.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 11:14 am to MLCLyons
I would love to lay sod but I'm not OT rich and trying a 250 dollar seed experiment is much better than $2800. The hydromulch company wanted almost &1800 dollars to spray Bermuda, no thanks.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 11:15 am to daviddsims
If you seed centipede correctly, you could have a lawn by this fall.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 11:24 am to daviddsims
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The hydromulch company wanted almost &1800 dollars to spray Bermuda, no thanks.
$1800 Seems super high from the prices I remember and it's only been about 5 years since I used any of them. Maybe i'm completely misremembering though. Only actually used a company once and it was for a yard that was like 15k sq ft so it was going to be too big of a PITA to lay sod. It seems like it was under $0.10/sq ft though. Wish I could remember the name of the company.
This post was edited on 6/6/17 at 11:27 am
Posted on 6/6/17 at 11:37 am to Earthquake 88
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Go with centipede. Bermuda gets too many weeds in it.
Thats crazy. Bermuda and zoysia are the easiest grasses to use chemicals on. I have Bermuda (full sun) and there is not a single weed in it. I do a pre-emergent in early December and again in late January. Fertilize it and keep it cut about 3.5" tall. It is easily the prettiest yard in my area. If a weed does show it head a little MSMA or Image will kill it quick.
However you will really have to keep it weedeated or the Bermuda will grow into your flowerbeds and areas where you dont want it. I weedeat it every 10 days or so and after weedeating it I go back and spray a line of roundup around the boarders.
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