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re: before you applaud the termination of the officer

Posted on 10/29/15 at 3:04 pm to
Posted by jose
Member since Feb 2009
29729 posts
Posted on 10/29/15 at 3:04 pm to
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I mentor at risk kids 3 days a week when I get off from work.



That's great. We need more people to do just that. Do you allow and condone this behavior? You can't possibly condone of this?

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Wrong again. I deal with her "type" on a weekly basis. These kids are starved for attention and more times than not people like the ones on this board will crucify them for one lapse in judgement. Label them as thugs and demand they be treated like dogs.


Well she actually 3 maybe four lapses of judgement. I can list them for you. The first was when she took the phone out during class in the first place. Second was when she ignored the teacher's request to pick it up. The third was when she did not listen to the request of the principal. And Then the fourth was when she did not listen to the officer's.

And for the 3rd time, I am not condoning the officer's behavior. I am placing all blame for the situation on the teenager.
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 10/29/15 at 3:05 pm to
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right until it becomes a distraction to others.


I agree with you. She caused a distraction by playing on her phone and she got manhandled. The cop cause a distraction by suplexing her out of her desk and got fired. Sounds like karma to me.
Posted by jose
Member since Feb 2009
29729 posts
Posted on 10/29/15 at 3:06 pm to
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Name one teenager who has never been unruly. That is part of being a teenager you long to be rebellious, however there are very few instances that rebellion requires being manhandled. She deserved to get detention or suspension, but not a fricking Rock bottom out of her desk. That is all I'm saying.


I agree there was no need for her to be tossed like a ragdoll. But when a police officer asks you do to do something, you do not rebel. If you still feel inclined to rebel, you deserve whatever happens.
This post was edited on 10/29/15 at 3:08 pm
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31554 posts
Posted on 10/29/15 at 3:06 pm to
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We are raising a generation of entitled brats who think they are above all authority and the law. What are we teaching “children” and young adults when a 17- or 18-year-old can disrupt a class, ignore 3 adult authority figures, and STRIKE an officer,

While this is very true.

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and the officer gets fired for handling the situation?

You are the professional that is trained to deal with these situations. Act like it.
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 10/29/15 at 3:08 pm to
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So what, in your professional opinion, should have been done to alleviate the situation?


First of all not call the Cops .

Handle it administratively after class( suspension,detention,etc....).


Why make a kid not participating ( not bothering others) in class a potential criminal act.


Kids have been drawing in class, reading comics,etc.....since forever.

I've never heard of not participating in class a criminal act.
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 10/29/15 at 3:09 pm to
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You can't possibly condone of this?


No I have taken bigger boys than her by the arm and removed them from their chair and talked to them outside.

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Well she actually 3 maybe four lapses of judgement. I can list them for you. The first was when she took the phone out during class in the first place. Second was when she ignored the teacher's request to pick it up. The third was when she did not listen to the request of the principal. And Then the fourth was when she did not listen to the officer's.


She was at fault but I bet if the principal and teacher knew the cop would have went ape shite on her they would have went a different route.

An old teacher told me you have to pick and choose your battles and let cooler heads prevailed. She said she never once had call the police on a student. And a majority of the times the problem child would comeback and apologized because they knew they were misbehaving and that she expect more from them.
Posted by jose
Member since Feb 2009
29729 posts
Posted on 10/29/15 at 3:15 pm to
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No I have taken bigger boys than her by the arm and removed them from their chair and talked to them outside.



She clearly wasn't being taken by the arm and going to receive a talking to. So you are saying you would have just yanked her by the arm until she came?

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She was at fault but I bet if the principal and teacher knew the cop would have went ape shite on her they would have went a different route.



Well yeah, clearly, they would have gone a different route. As he lost his job today, I'd assume his superiors would agree with you there too.

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An old teacher told me you have to pick and choose your battles and let cooler heads prevailed. She said she never once had call the police on a student. And a majority of the times the problem child would comeback and apologized because they knew they were misbehaving and that she expect more from them.



So you're saying they should have just let her do her thing in class and continue to be a distraction to her classmates and teachers?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299704 posts
Posted on 10/29/15 at 3:19 pm to
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So you're saying they should have just let her do her thing in class and continue to be a distraction to her classmates and teachers?


She would have settled down.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138923 posts
Posted on 10/29/15 at 3:19 pm to
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First of all not call the Cops

I think the cops were already stationed at the school.
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Handle it administratively after class( suspension,detention,etc....).

So just let her do what she wants then slap her on the wrist? You don't deal much with kids, do you? You know what happens when a kid sees that another kid is allowed to do something? They do it because the other kid is getting away with it.

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Kids have been drawing in class, reading comics,etc.....since forever.

I've never heard of not participating in class a criminal act.


Well, phones are banned, so blatantly taking them out and using them is a direct challenge to the teacher's authority.



I know you think these kids should just be allowed to do whatever they want and that is the exact problem. I said it earlier and I'll say it again. People like you are the problem. These kids are distracting others from getting an education and you're perfectly fine with it. The black community's problems are almost all completely internal and this is a prime example.




Besides, I was asking someone else's opinion, not yours. I already knew what yours was going to be.

Posted by stampman
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
5240 posts
Posted on 10/29/15 at 3:21 pm to
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You are a racist or a bigot at the least. So why are you mad that society for the most part frowns upon your beliefs. If you have those feelings then fine have them, but don't cry like a bitch because
people find you repulsive.




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Okay pussy, try to label me. Would it shock you to know that I am a minority? My skin is probably darker than yours.


Big "BOOM"!
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2004
21240 posts
Posted on 10/29/15 at 3:25 pm to
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She would have settled down.


We don't know that for sure do we?
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
69090 posts
Posted on 10/29/15 at 3:25 pm to
He should have sprayed her with a fire extinguisher. That would have been an epic jimmy rustle.
Posted by iSpy
Member since Sep 2015
274 posts
Posted on 10/29/15 at 3:28 pm to
[quote]We are raising a generation of entitled brats who think they are above all authority and the law. What are we teaching “children” and young adults when a 17- or 18-year-old can disrupt a class, ignore 3 adult authority figures, and STRIKE an officer

All this does is sends out the message that it's ok to act up and be disruptive in class. Another reason my son goes to private school. That behavior should not be tolerated by anyone , no matter the color of their skin. She needs a good arse whipping by a parent because she has no respect for authority. She will not get far in life.
Posted by stampman
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
5240 posts
Posted on 10/29/15 at 3:29 pm to
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No, it's just because my family didn't even speak fricking English and now they have prospered beyond what they could have ever imagined. The victim mentality of certain people is something I despise.


Hat's off to you and your family...
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 10/29/15 at 3:35 pm to
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Well, phones are banned, so blatantly taking them out and using them is a direct challenge to the teacher's authority.



I know you think these kids should just be allowed to do whatever they want and that is the exact problem. I said it earlier and I'll say it again. People like you are the problem. These kids are distracting others from getting an education and you're perfectly fine with it. The black community's problems are almost all completely internal and this is a prime example.




Phones being ' banned' from class did not stop 4 phone camera angles of the Goons attack.


Comic books , girly magazines, drawing ,,etc..... have always been banned from class ,but kids have always brought them into the room.

And none of the above offenses rise to a criminal act in which the Officer is called to the room.




Again. Most of the class was unaware that the child was playing with her phone.


The Teacher & Cops disrupted the class & entire school. A suspension & potential expulsion is not a slap in the wrist.



I have a job to get to now & the Cop doesn't . So feel I'm prpbably more right about the issue.



Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 10/29/15 at 3:42 pm to
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Okay pussy, try to label me. Would it shock you to know that I am a minority? My skin is probably darker than yours.


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Big "BOOM"!



I have a ten foot pecker. See how easy it is to lie on the internet. Secondly he said he was a minority and his skin is probably darker than mine which does not the equivalent to black. He can be blacker than the ace of spades and be racist as frick. But besides all that yea big boom.
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 10/29/15 at 3:45 pm to
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We don't know that for sure do we?



Yea she was practically swinging from the rafters prior to just sitting in that desk quietly.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138923 posts
Posted on 10/29/15 at 3:46 pm to
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Phones being ' banned' from class did not stop 4 phone camera angles of the Goons attack.


Comic books , girly magazines, drawing ,,etc..... have always been banned from class ,but kids have always brought them into the room.

And none of the above offenses rise to a criminal act in which the Officer is called to the room.


It's ok. You can keep justifying these kids breaking the rules only to influence others to do so as well. It's what the black community does and it's why they're in the situation they're in. I don't really give a shite anymore. Wallow in your own filth and ignorance for all I care.

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A suspension & potential expulsion is not a slap in the wrist.

Eventually enough suspensions will lead to expulsions which will then lead to the kid not getting an education which will then lead to a whole string of bad decisions that will cost me and the rest of the taxpayers copious amounts of money.

This is a great example of how the "school to jail" theory is a complete farce invented by intellectually lazy people such as yourself to drum up animosity instead of actually doing something about the real problem.

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I have a job to get to now & the Cop doesn't . So feel I'm prpbably more right about the issue.

You're actually very wrong and you condone the exact behavior that puts people at a distinct disadvantage in this world. But, when you can easily blame cops and white people for all your self-inflicted problems, you don't really need personal responsibility.
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 10/29/15 at 3:48 pm to
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No, it's just because my family didn't even speak fricking English and now they have prospered beyond what they could have ever imagined. The victim mentality of certain people is something I despise.



Did your family come here legally?
Posted by iSpy
Member since Sep 2015
274 posts
Posted on 10/29/15 at 3:49 pm to
The reason the cop doesn't have his job anymore is because no one wants riots and all that hoopla! Its sickening that instead of doing the right thing in cases like this , we first have to take into account what may happen after decisions are made. Sad world we live in
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