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re: Baton Rouge issues $10M bond to start financing $170M downtonwn-LSU tram.

Posted on 6/22/16 at 7:05 pm to
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 7:05 pm to
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Having his office on Perkins Rd doesn't help at all......plenty office buildings on plank rd




Right next to Bella Noche
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 7:06 pm to
I like the idea... but even with the federal money subtracted that's a lot for the city to spend that could go elsewhere. And I have doubts that it's going to work... but if it does and the area between LSU and downtown does gentrify that will be great for the city. It's going to take some time though and some people are going to have to go first. Well... go next because parts along Nicholson just south of I-10 are already starting to see a change.
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 7:06 pm to
My uncle just called and told me he got me a no show job for this tram construction
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
78658 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 7:06 pm to
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I hate to say it, but downtown Baton Rouge is as good as it's gonna get.


6-7 years ago I would have disagreed with you, but now I think you're correct.
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 7:07 pm to
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Having his office on Perkins Rd doesn't help at all......plenty office buildings on plank rd


Ah, the do as I say not as I do political attitude.
Posted by MBclass83
Member since Oct 2010
10388 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 7:08 pm to
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They need to level that fricking ghetto between downtown and LSU first.


Please let this happen.
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 7:09 pm to
Or maybe just a white flight back in since some of the homes and neighborhoods have potential if you get the criminals out.
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 7:11 pm to
But frick fixing the roads and interstate
Posted by Langland
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 7:18 pm to
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I hate to say it, but downtown Baton Rouge is as good as it's gonna get.
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6-7 years ago I would have disagreed with you, but now I think you're correct.

Yep, downtown is pretty much at its high point. Things will quickly level off for a couple of years and then in about five years it will be in a obvious free fall.
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 7:29 pm to
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So basically some design firm is going to get $10m and then this will die and never have to produce anything. Corruption is tight.






Exactly
This post was edited on 6/22/16 at 7:32 pm
Posted by Langland
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 7:44 pm to
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Baton Rouge issues $10M bond to start financing $170M downtonwn-LSU tram.

For what purpose? If downtown had something worth going to, people would already be going downtown. Transportation isn't the fricking problem you fricking morons. If people wanted to go downtown, they would go downtown. Much of what can be done downtown (average restaurants, bars, shopping) can be done closer to home and done without the extra headache of going downtown.
Posted by LouisianaLonghorn
Austin, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
15936 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 7:58 pm to
This is exactly what needs to happen. The problem is that somebody's got to be the first one in. When I first moved to Austin, the east side of I-35 was a ghetto. Now it's home to some of the hottest new restaurants, bars, and shops in town. It can be done in BR too. The question is who will be the one to get the ball rolling.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
46420 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 8:22 pm to
A couple of months ago this project was $100 million. Estimates have already jumped $70 million? Yes this is more important that the down payment on a new Mississippi River bridge near Plaqamine...
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 8:24 pm to
I could easily provide 1,000,000 rides back and forth for less than $10m.

Hire me and save money and then the citizens won't have to pay fare. You're welcome.
Posted by Langland
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 8:27 pm to
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This is exactly what needs to happen. The problem is that somebody's got to be the first one in. When I first moved to Austin, the east side of I-35 was a ghetto. Now it's home to some of the hottest new restaurants, bars, and shops in town. It can be done in BR too. The question is who will be the one to get the ball rolling.


The main difference is The University of Texas is located downtown without physical or psychological barriers. LSU is outside of downtown with I-10 and the hood separating them. Downtown needs to be able to function without LSU being the primary driver of bidness. Downtown Baton Rouge is worth seeing ONCE. There are very few things that can keep people heading back. If it wasn't for people wanting to drink on Friday and Saturday nights, downtown wouldn't have shite going for it. (The Shaw Center is an exception and does drive some people and interest downtown, but nothing worth a shite has come of it. When Raising Cane's took that prime location, that was a sad day. So fricking sad.

If we had a Perkins Rd thing happening downtown, then that could turn into something. But the fools running the show downtown do things arse backwards. Restaurants can drive and motivate people to go downtown and keep them going back. The dipshits like David Rhorer (sp?) thinks you need residential areas first before you bring in the restaurants. People will and have always traveled for good eats.
Posted by Asgard Device
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Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 8:37 pm to
Somebody please ELI5 why enough people will pay to ride this thing to merit the construction and possibly dedicating a lane, when currently there is a FREE (FREE!!!) bus that very few people ride along that same route?

Also, please ELI5 how you can justify $170m to only subsidize static routes for maybe 300 people a day? Even if it were 1,000 people a day and you paid uber $15 per ride that would only amount to $5.475m a year which could be funded in perpetuity with $100m in a trust. I'm betting you can get it for much less.

I like the idea of trams, and I still think they make sense for longer distance routes, but I don't understand the math behind an unproven 3mi route when automated cars are about to take over anyway.
This post was edited on 6/22/16 at 8:41 pm
Posted by Jones2Davis
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Member since May 2016
138 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 8:37 pm to
Have you not noticed that there are restaurants and plenty of nightlife downtown? It's growing too. Do you think hotels and condos popping up all over are for shits and giggles? No, Rhorer hasn't done shite, I'll give you that. He sat back and let Alton Landry and Bob Dean develop downtown. But it's not the shite hole you make it out to be.
Posted by Langland
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Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 8:47 pm to
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Have you not noticed that there are restaurants and plenty of nightlife downtown?
Yes, on a handful of nights. It's located immediately around the Shaw Center. Outside of that area of "success," it's mostly wishful thinking on the part of bidness owners. Poor bastards. Restaurant have suffered. Stroubes has struggled greatly. Downtown success is largely an illusion.
Posted by LouisianaLonghorn
Austin, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
15936 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 9:12 pm to
I'm not talking about downtown BR. I'm talking about demolishing and redeveloping the area between LSU and downtown. I agree that it's a barrier of sorts. The problem with the gentrification of those neighborhoods is that you will have people who will play the race card.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116450 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 9:20 pm to
This would be so good for the city. Which is why it will never happen


Wish they would ear mark some funds to Bulldoze the area behind Chimes, and all the other random ghetto areas that make the commute around the city so difficult and make it the hardest major city to have fun in.
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