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re: Aug Study release.... 24 randomized controlled trials and again prove Ivermectin works
Posted on 8/27/21 at 7:08 am to josh336
Posted on 8/27/21 at 7:08 am to josh336
Not trying to be a stick in the mud, but you said most of the study was proven to be fake, but the studies being refuted in these two links aren't discussing the OP's study.
One link refutes a November study, where the OP is using a study compiling data in April.
Not saying I am ingesting animal drugs anytime soon, but science has new findings all the time, so I am hesitant to outright dismiss it, but these folks need to show their work, so that is why I was asking for links.
One link refutes a November study, where the OP is using a study compiling data in April.
Not saying I am ingesting animal drugs anytime soon, but science has new findings all the time, so I am hesitant to outright dismiss it, but these folks need to show their work, so that is why I was asking for links.
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Posted on 8/27/21 at 7:25 am to STEVED00
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so are India and Japan not using it and it showing success? I don’t really care but it sounds like they are giving it out like candy and the situations there are improving dramatically.
Undetermined.
My earlier post was just to point out that countries all over the world have been using ivermectin for a year and a half now for COVID, Africans take almost half a billion doses every single year, and that the guy who developed it won a Nobel Prize of Medicine for it. Basically that it was a safe for human consumption drug and not a Facebook meme like the retards on the left have been going hard with the last week or so.
Part of the reason there is a lack of medical studies, in South America at least, is that so many people were taking ivermectin that they couldn't find enough people for a control group. As mentioned by someone else above a lot of these countries were handing ivermectin out like candy last year because there were no vaccines, no "approved" treatments, a shite load of people were sick and dying, so they threw a hail mary. Ivermectin has proven to affect other viruses from replicating and keeping viral loads down so they figured why not try it, nothing to lose.
Maybe someone could go look at the stats for Bolivia, Peru, India state of Goa since May, Slovakia since January, etc and see if they have had wicked 3rd waves like the western world that has effectively banned ivermectin.
Posted on 8/27/21 at 7:27 am to Montezuma
They are studies within the studies provided in the OPs link
Furthermore, someone will have to explain to me why the huge company that makes ivermectin (and would stand to make lots of money from it being used to treat covid) has had a disclaimer on their website for months saying it has not proven to be an effective treatment for covid
Furthermore, someone will have to explain to me why the huge company that makes ivermectin (and would stand to make lots of money from it being used to treat covid) has had a disclaimer on their website for months saying it has not proven to be an effective treatment for covid
This post was edited on 8/27/21 at 7:34 am
Posted on 8/27/21 at 7:32 am to STEVED00
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Ok so are India and Japan not using it and it showing success? I don’t really care but it sounds like they are giving it out like candy and the situations there are improving dramatically
The sheep DO NOT want to hear this. The only thing that will work is listening to Traitor Joe
Posted on 8/27/21 at 7:52 am to josh336
It leaves me highly skeptical too. It is still strange to see the jumps in logic to bypass heavily studied and vetted options with more than enough data to show the benefits of not being hospitalized or dying, and taking some random things instead. There is a threshold where we go from mistrustful to outright willful ignorance.
Posted on 8/27/21 at 8:06 am to Jjdoc
Hey FDA! Let's follow the science!
Posted on 8/27/21 at 8:07 am to Vastmind
I think they are
Posted on 8/27/21 at 8:27 am to Jjdoc
Maybe it works, but the second largest sample size study, Elgazzar 2020, has been retracted.
More in the article linked in the above quote.
I wish there were an over the counter magic bullet for covid, but Ivermectin isn't it. You're more likely to see a benefit from popping 1000% DV Vitamin D, than Ivermectin.
If you think you have covid, get tested. If you're positive and "at risk" (BMI > 25) you should seek getting monoclonal antibodies treatment asap. The sooner you get the treatment after infection, the better.
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A large Egyptian study of ivermectin for COVID-19 patients has been retracted over concerns of plagiarism and serious problems with their raw data, the publisher confirmed to MedPage Today.
Michele Avissar-Whiting, PhD, editor-in-chief of the preprint server Research Square, said in an emailed statement that the study was withdrawn on July 14 "because we were presented with evidence of both plagiarism and anomalies in the dataset associated with the study, neither of which could reasonably be addressed by the author issuing a revised version of the paper." LINK
More in the article linked in the above quote.
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The study was one of the largest ivermectin trials in the world, and has been included in two recent meta-analyses (Bryant et al. and Hill et al.) that received much attention for their positive results -- particularly the Hill review, which had been anticipated by a U.S. group that has long promoted ivermectin.
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Lead author Andrew Hill, PhD, of the University of Liverpool in England, said in an email to MedPage Today that his team will be "re-running our analysis with the Elgazzar trial removed."
Hill added that his team will also include a recently published 500-patient randomized controlled trial from Argentina, published in BMC Infectious Diseases, which found no effect for ivermectin in terms of preventing hospitalization in patients with COVID-19. It also found that those who received ivermectin required invasive ventilation sooner than those on placebo.
I wish there were an over the counter magic bullet for covid, but Ivermectin isn't it. You're more likely to see a benefit from popping 1000% DV Vitamin D, than Ivermectin.
If you think you have covid, get tested. If you're positive and "at risk" (BMI > 25) you should seek getting monoclonal antibodies treatment asap. The sooner you get the treatment after infection, the better.
This post was edited on 8/27/21 at 8:42 am
Posted on 8/27/21 at 9:12 am to Jjdoc
People are downvoting you because they DON'T WANT the good news to be true.....think about the enemy you are fighting.....
Posted on 8/27/21 at 9:38 am to Animal
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I take mine right after I eat a well marbled ribeye.
You animal, you.
Posted on 8/27/21 at 10:05 am to KamaCausey_LSU
Yeah. Ivermectin is not over the counter.
and YEAH it's working. It's being used more and more.
and YEAH it's working. It's being used more and more.
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