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re: At what point do we (myself included) say enough of this and get the hell out this state?

Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:50 am to
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
23875 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:50 am to
All valid points but OP was complaining about Louisiana severe weather, not the socioeconomic situation.
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
8951 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:50 am to
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No one wants to live in shitty duplexes and townhouses that are on top of each other just so that they can walk to the grocery store.


It does not have to be that way. You lack the imagination to see it.

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It’s really not difficult to understand that there’s an entire population of people who do not want to live in urban mixed use development.


Why do you want to waste hours of your life sitting in traffic and driving everywhere to get even basic shite?

Having a grocery store, hardware store, etc in your neighborhood just makes life better. It just does.

It does not have to be binary extremes of 500 square foot apartments or 5000 square foot mcmansions in the burbs. There is room for compromise but we do not have that in most cities.

Same problem as the "buy a starter home" meme we hear ad nausem on this board. Those are not made anymore.

Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
16918 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:50 am to
My family and I won't return to Baton Rouge or New Orleans for 3 reasons:

- Public school systems fricking suck
- Crime, even in nice areas, is bad
- Weather is shite. Hot 9 months, "not as hot" 3 other months

I have family in Uptown and nicer areas of Metarie in New Orleans. Bocage and around LSU lakes in Baton Rouge. And all of them have crime issues. Cars being stolen, neighbors being robbed in their homes, etc.

I moved outside of Chattanooga (won't get exact location on here), but there is no crime other than high school kids acting out, a great public school around the corner, and 4 distinct seasons of weather.
Posted by boudinman
Member since Nov 2019
6101 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:51 am to
Move to Alabama or Arkansas. Then you can hookup at your family reunions. Lol
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11713 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:51 am to
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It's been a lot of years and when I go home my town looks the same minus a few new restaurants and a new Walmart.


It is like getting in a time machine for much of Louisiana.
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
8951 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:52 am to
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Why do you think zoning laws are the way they are?


Old NIMBYs that go to every goddamn city council meeting and learn how to hold shite up or squash developments.

Old, retired folks are the GOATs at squashing developments or changing policy.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11713 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:52 am to
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- Weather is shite. Hot 9 months, "not as hot" 3 other months


Toss in floods, hurricanes and ice storms.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
16918 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:52 am to
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jclem11


Most people in the Southeast don't want to live near a bunch of other people. Personally, I like to walk outside and take a piss in my backyard, play loud music in my garage, and generally not worry about neighbors because they're so far away.

It is so much more peaceful than urban living.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
42811 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:52 am to
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Live near river on higher ground.



Profit


If that is not an option, then do not build or buy a house on a slab on low ground that nature designed to routinely flood. Especially if that low ground is located in a subtropical region located < 100 miles from the coast.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
16918 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:53 am to
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Toss in floods, hurricanes and ice storms.



Yeah, but as others have pointed out, there are disasters everywhere. We get blizzards, ice storms, floods, and tornados.

You deal with those everywhere. It's just when they pass here, we have crisp Falls, cold Winters, gorgeous Springs, and a hot, dry Summer.

Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:53 am to
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This post was edited on 5/19/21 at 6:40 pm
Posted by phutureisyic
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2016
3444 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:56 am to
I stayed here cause of my son and my parents. He turned 18 and my parents are in their 80’s and I like to be a drives away in case anything happens. Once they pass, I’m moving to the beach.
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
8951 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:56 am to
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Most people in the Southeast don't want to live near a bunch of other people. Personally, I like to walk outside and take a piss in my backyard, play loud music in my garage, and generally not worry about neighbors because they're so far away.

It is so much more peaceful than urban living.


Dude I advocate banning single family zoning in urban settings and using mixed used planning concepts to make suburbs and smaller cities better.

The OT loves to shite on fat people but all our cities are constructed to where you cannot walk or bike anywhere.

Walking and biking just make you happier and healthier.

An issue Louisiana is facing outside the shite weather is the lack of white collar jobs or room for growth.

The state is dying a slow death. Get out if you can.

ETA: enjoying the stalking downvoter in this thread. Stay mad baw.
This post was edited on 5/18/21 at 8:59 am
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
16918 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:58 am to
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It is like getting in a time machine for much of Louisiana.



Because, unfortunately, a majority of Louisiana's population is fat, dumb, and broke. It has become cyclical in families and is worsening because the wrong people are staying in Louisiana and the wrong people are procreating.

It is truly rotting away so you won't see investment in modernization from the private sector.

Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:58 am to
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This post was edited on 5/19/21 at 6:41 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281888 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:59 am to
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There’s something no matter where you go.


But when you add it all up, it's quite an improvement.

Posted by LSU4ever2002
Member since Sep 2009
661 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 9:01 am to
Just get a house on higher elevation
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
60808 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 9:01 am to
The weather is just the weather. You expect it living on the coast. What’s inexcusable and leaves one with no hope for the future is what’s become of the state and much of the population in ignorance, crime, trashiness, litter and filth everywhere, dilapidated and antiquated infrastructure, aggressive drivers on the roads, horrific traffic, failed school system, etc, etc, ad nauseam I can deal with the weather. I’m just not sure how I can deal with the rest of that long term as I get closer to retirement. IOW, I am more than a little concerned what this place is going to look like in another 10-20 years from now given the current state of degradation.





Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281888 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 9:03 am to
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The suburbs are coming for previously rural areas too and it sucks


Still beats urban living.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
62807 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 9:05 am to
2016 flood was purely because of overdevelopment. Too much concrete these days
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