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re: Are their genetic differences between races? Or is it environment?

Posted on 2/24/15 at 10:55 am to
Posted by Moustache
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 10:55 am to
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Why would this thread be whacked? Seriously? Are you afraid some ignorant people will come in and ruin it, or are you completely against the premise?
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 10:56 am to
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Are you afraid some ignorant people will come in and ruin it


I mean this place isn't the SECr but it isn't exactly populated by the most refined either
Posted by LordSaintly
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 10:57 am to
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Are you afraid some ignorant people will come in and ruin it


I'm not afraid of it, per se, but it's inevitable.

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are you completely against the premise?


No, but these threads never last long.
Posted by jose canseco
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 10:58 am to
Sickle Cell
Posted by Moustache
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 10:58 am to
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In today's culture, which set of traits is more desirable? There's the rub.



That depends on which culture you're part of. There's an awful lot of white trash dads whose kids I coach wish their kids were more athletic. I have 1 kid I coach in particular who is incredibly intelligent. However, his dad is "disappointed" in him because he can't hit the ball "over dat dam fence."
Posted by bigpetedatiga
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 10:58 am to
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I'm a huge fan of environment too. However, we all have genetic limits.

No amount of environment would make me a world renwoned brain surgeon.

No amount of environment would allow me to hit 500 HRS.

No amount of environment would allow me to be an Olympic sprinter.


Of course we have genetic limits.

I'm black and I am more likely to be a brain surgeon then a Olympic sprinter.
Posted by Wtodd
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 10:59 am to
It's upbringing......next question.
Posted by GeauxGoose
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 10:59 am to
Beat me to it! I was just about to ask the op if he had recently watched trading places
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 11:00 am to
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lordguill
Have you honestly weighed in? I'm curious how you feel about it all.

Remember 9 out of 10 i'm down for the cause.
Posted by Moustache
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 11:00 am to
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It's upbringing......next question.


So upbringing is the reason there aren't any white or asian CBs in the NFL?

Upbringing is the reason for Sickle cell being a black trait?

upbringing is the reason there are no white sprinters in the olympics from the U.S.?
Posted by CarRamrod
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 11:00 am to
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Are Asians inherently more intelligent or is it the environment and upbringing
you just see the smart ones that were able to leave asia for the Universities of the west. There are probably 3 billion other asians that are no smarter and probably less intelligent than the average American.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 11:01 am to
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Of course we have genetic limits.

I'm black and I am more likely to be a brain surgeon then a Olympic sprinter.

That's the problem with these type of threads. It's hard to quantify from an individual level to seeing it as an aggregate. Strawman.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 11:02 am to
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This applies to the vast majority of the human race.

Not every black person can jump out the gym and plenty of white people can.



I didn't bring up black people. You did.

I just said my genetics limit my physical ability. It doesn't matter how much I train.

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Yes and no. Of course genetics plays a role in athletics like it does in intelligence, but how it is nurtured and honed is a totally different issue.

Plenty of athletic kids do not play sports or never reach their potential, while plenty of students with mental deficiencies are knocking out 4.0's.



You agreed with me.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 11:03 am to
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you just see the smart ones that were able to leave asia for the Universities of the west. There are probably 3 billion other asians that are no smarter and probably less intelligent than the average American.
Ummmmm, No. Send your average 6th grade bunny bread white american over to an average 6th grade classroom in China and watch his head explode
Posted by wizziko
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 11:03 am to
well Inuits and are short and stout so they're batter at withstanding cold than any other race
Posted by TheCaterpillar
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 11:05 am to
Samoans are a good case study for this. They are genetically built perfectly for football.

Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 11:06 am to
Man what I would have accomplished with an extra tendon in my legs and a couple inches on my wingspan
Posted by CadesCove
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 11:07 am to
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I'm black and I am more likely to be a brain surgeon then a Olympic sprinter.


There are other levels of athletics and I am sure there is a hierarchy of brain surgeons (all are likely better at science than I am though.) There are only a handful for Olympic level sprinters in the world and quite a few neurosurgeons. Apples and oranges, man.

I do think that there are a lot of cultural factors though. It appears that the poorer and less-educated the area that someone grows up in, the more stress is placed on physical abilities as a way out as opposed to education.
Posted by REB BEER
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 11:07 am to
According to this study, blacks have denser bones than do whites. LINK

I was also taught in anatomy that the femur in blacks has slightly more curve than whites. Does that increase athletic ability??? I don't know.
Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 11:07 am to
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Samoans are a good case study for this. They are genetically built perfectly for football.


No way they would be good for a study. Their names are too hard to spell and pronounce.
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