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re: Arbery deliberations are over-- VERDICT is GUILTY

Posted on 11/24/21 at 6:50 pm to
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 6:50 pm to
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didn't follow this at all as it was pretty obvious they were guilty, so have a question; What was the reasoning behind the 4 felony murder charges?

I mean one guy was dead so 4 murder charges seems odd.


Each lesser felony (i.e. assault, false imprisonment) came with an associated charge of “felony murder” if Travis was found guilty of murder and the jury determined that the lesser felony was in furtherance (that is to say “aided”) the malice murder.

So each defendant was stuck with a group of 4 felony murders charges predicated upon the lesser charges to deal with if the killing itself was judged to be murder.


@BuckyCheese

If I had to guess, I would imagine deciding each of the felony murder counts was their last bit of business this morning before they announced their verdict.

They probably decided Travis’s fate yesterday. And they requested to see the video and listen to the 911 call this morning. Once they decided that Travis had committed murder and the underlying felony’s (i.e. assault, self-defense) may have aided in the murder, they probably took a vote on the felony murder charges at noon and then announced the verdict 1 hour later.
Posted by gadknot
Reality
Member since Jul 2005
37306 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 6:50 pm to
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Any looting and rioting yet


THIS
WILL
NEVER
GET
OLD

Let’s go Brandon!!!
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
14344 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 6:53 pm to
SHUT
THE
frick
UP
YOU
PEDOPHILE

Let’s go Gadknot!
Posted by gadknot
Reality
Member since Jul 2005
37306 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 6:54 pm to
Oooo burn
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9298 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 6:58 pm to
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So, how do you reform it? Take prosecutorial discretion away from prosecutors?

I don’t think prosecutorial discretion was the issue here - the issue was interference by 2 different DA’s with conflicts of interest.

The first DA allegedly told the local PD not to make any arrests at the scene before recusing herself shortly thereafter, since Greg McMichael was her former employee. She has denied interfering with the case, but has already been indicted on charges of “violation of oath of public officer and obstruction of a police officer.”

The second DA apparently knew McMichael as well but held on to the case for 2 months and repeatedly told the local PD he didn’t think charges were warranted - even after he had made the decision to recuse himself. He hasn’t been indicted (yet) as far as I can tell.

Anyhow, prosecutorial discretion is one thing. But actively interfering in an investigation when you have a conflict of interest is over the line. It happens all the time I’m sure, especially in smaller towns.. but that’s kind of the point. It shouldn’t happen all the time.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49019 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 7:00 pm to
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Each lesser felony (i.e. assault, false imprisonment) came with an associated charge of “felony murder” if Travis was found guilty of murder and the jury determined that the lesser felony was in furtherance (that is to say “aided”) the malice murder.

So each defendant was stuck with a group of 4 felony murders charges predicated upon the lesser charges to deal with if the killing itself was judged to be murder.



Ok. Still seems odd. Either way these guys aren't seeing the light of day again.

Seems a bit stiff for the guy that filmed it. However, as mentioned, I didn't follow the case so I assume he did more than just film the incident.
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6420 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 7:07 pm to
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A poster in another thread made a good point about this I think. If they thought he was up to no good and wanted to chase him out of the neighborhood that wouldn't be such a bad thing. However they should have never introduced gunplay into it at all. That's where they really went over the line and it led to a shooting death and now they're fricked.

That was a pretty good assessment I thought because even if the guy was stealing stuff the penalty for theft is not death under the law

This right here.. they thought that he would surrender himself when a gun was pointed at him.. the truth is if you are going to point a gun at someone you must be committed to using it. Travis had to use his and will spend the rest of his life in prison and the others too..
This is the reason I have tons of guns but do not carry. If you pull it you may have to use it and you better have a damn good clear cut reason.
Posted by 850SaintsGator
Pensacola
Member since Sep 2021
2236 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 7:15 pm to
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Now the local prosecutor that sat on this case for 2 or 3 months needs to be investigated.


I read that a grand jury indicted her recently
This post was edited on 11/24/21 at 7:38 pm
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76202 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 7:20 pm to
No man, we’re supposed to pretend the dude was just out for a jog when these trump guys for no reason at all hunted him down
Posted by NorthTxLSU
Dallas, Tx
Member since Nov 2018
11065 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 8:57 pm to
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Arbery was a piece of shite doing what his ilk do best. Scouting the area to see what he could steal. I had some Sub-Saharans like him pull up on my house a while back with an unmarked car looking over my fence in broad daylight. The way they pulled into my driveway you would have thought they lived there. Shitheads saw the camera system, covered their faces and sped off. But those retards in Georgia should have never followed him. Da frick you doing confronting him with a gun when it has nothing to do with you. Wasting your life over that useless dalit Arbery is just not smart.


there it is was waiting for this one



you’re a retard
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
14344 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 9:14 pm to
So, white dude innocent and white dude guilty. Any shite popping ? I am looking to watch.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84752 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 9:24 pm to
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No man, we’re supposed to pretend the dude was just out for a jog when these trump guys for no reason at all hunted him down


And those dumb fricks couldn’t produce a single bit of evidence proving he did anything wrong, despite security footage showing the property.

Some of you can’t help but justify murder.
Posted by USMCguy121
Northshore
Member since Aug 2021
6332 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 9:26 pm to
said it from the beginning. guilty - and the news will give this 1 day and never cover it again
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 11:46 pm to
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The videos of him. The day of his murder he walked into that house. When the neighbor called the cops he was at a full sprint from inside the house. That’s not a jogger. And he’s been caught stealing before. The problem is the narrative is he was just jogging down the road and for no reason at all was shot. Nothing else happened.


The security video also showed other people in the house looking around at times, were they also stealing? There is zero evidence Aubrey ever took a single thing from the house. Like it or not during the time leading up to the shooting he was doing nothing but jogging.
Posted by CovingtonTigre
In your head Werder
Member since Mar 2021
1292 posts
Posted on 11/25/21 at 12:01 am to
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I had some Sub-Saharans


Vlkatet,

Put your name on it big man
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58046 posts
Posted on 11/25/21 at 12:16 am to
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. We had 3-4 jurors that were dead set on convictions based solely on the fact the defendant didn't take the stand. "He must be guilty" was their response.


frick me how were they not dumped during voir dire?
Posted by lsusa
Doing Missionary work for LSU
Member since Oct 2005
4508 posts
Posted on 11/25/21 at 12:28 am to
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"Kyle shouldn't have been there so its his fault."


“Kyle was forced to shoot three people in self defense. The jury got the verdict correct. The legal system worked. He has to live with his conscience knowing that he killed two people, which is tough for anyone regardless of the circumstances. He also has to live with the fact that he made the decision to knowingly put himself in harm’s way when it was unnecessary to do so. That decision set the whole chain of events in motion - including the fact he had to stand trial. His decision to go to the riot could have easily resulted in his death. He put himself in a position where a jury of strangers could have put himself in prison for the rest of his life. He’s not a hero. He’s a dumb kid who made a bad decision. Knowing what he knows now if he could go back in time, unless he’s a fool or a psychopath, he’d have stayed away.”
Posted by AlonsoWDC
Memphis, where it ain't Ten-a-Key
Member since Aug 2014
8760 posts
Posted on 11/25/21 at 6:27 am to
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progressive using the word cuck. Nothing more laughable.

Particularly a black progressive, who has been thoroughly abused by the white progressives and begs for more while they lead you in chains.

But you be you. One day they'll really be on your side.


I'm not black, you stupid piece of shite.
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