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re: Anyone here ever play a round of golf with older equipment?
Posted on 5/14/16 at 4:57 pm to jg8623
Posted on 5/14/16 at 4:57 pm to jg8623
The thinking is that the talent shines and the weaker players are punished more. With more forgiving clubs, "bad" players aren't punished as much as they normally would be.
Posted on 5/14/16 at 5:10 pm to slackster
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, the best players will dominate the average tour guy, and 5-6 players will win most tournaments.
the difference between the tour in the old days and the tour today is not how good the top guys are (or were). they were and still are the best of the best. the difference is that there are a lot more of the best players today. there are many, many, many more golfers in the world today and most of those that showed talent at the early ages received the best instruction, equipment and "mental" training. that results in a field, top to bottom, much better than the old days. hell, Lee Trevino was a caddy and taught himself how to play golf. and he wasn't the only one. the early pros were looked down on and couldn't play at the best courses which were country clubs where the best players were ametuers (sp) like bobby jones. and Europe was a wasteland after ww2. I don't even think golf was played on the continent until the 50's or 60's and asia is also a place where golf is a fairly new sport.
yea, the equipment is better but the courses were shorter but not in the shape of the courses today either.
Posted on 5/14/16 at 8:07 pm to LSU GrandDad
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the difference between the tour in the old days and the tour today is not how good the top guys are (or were). they were and still are the best of the best. the difference is that there are a lot more of the best players today
This I agree with to a point. When Tiger was dominating, I thought there were more good players in the game then but not as many great players as were in Jack's era. If there were say a Ryder cup style match with the 12 best players in Tigers prime and the 12 best in Jack's, my money would be on Jack's.
Now with this new wave of talent, if they can maintain and welcome a few new young guns, I could see this era of talent putting together a 12 that I'd bet on against either.
Posted on 5/14/16 at 8:39 pm to LSUlefty
I grew up playing with old stuff in the 1970's.
A driver was really difficult to hit, but many course were park style and none were 7000 yards. I hit my 3 wood off of most tees and did fine. The only thing old clubs did better for me was chipping bc all the big head and perimeter weighting take some of the subtle feel off of a short chip.
Equipment and the modern golf ball have really changed the game. A driver is fairly easy to hit now.
A driver was really difficult to hit, but many course were park style and none were 7000 yards. I hit my 3 wood off of most tees and did fine. The only thing old clubs did better for me was chipping bc all the big head and perimeter weighting take some of the subtle feel off of a short chip.
Equipment and the modern golf ball have really changed the game. A driver is fairly easy to hit now.
Posted on 5/14/16 at 9:21 pm to TT9
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Much, much shorter
They were shorter, but with the equipment they were longer, shite the 61 Open at Hills played up to 7k yards.
Posted on 5/14/16 at 9:38 pm to slackster
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See, I think that argument can be turned around to say that Connor's inferior competition was hurt even more so by the equipment of the time, hence his dominance.
Makes sense.
Graphite racquets exploded the game.
Technology can level the playing field - with forgiving equipment - but it also makes the genius stars that much better.
It's fair to say better equipment creates bigger fields of world class players - but the top class still separates themselves even further.
Posted on 5/14/16 at 9:43 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Everyone plays in their own era.
Posted on 5/14/16 at 10:56 pm to slackster
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The best players in the world are consistent and don't mi shite often.
I don't think that's a safe assumption. With much larger sweet spots and much more forgiving results as a result you still see a lot of suboptimal golf shots.
Tennis would be a lot more entertaining on the whole IMO if they were using wooden rackets now. A big serve is nice but seeing longer points with sustained volleys is a lot more interesting and competitive overall IMO.
Posted on 5/14/16 at 11:30 pm to molsusports
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Tennis would be a lot more entertaining on the whole IMO if they were using wooden rackets now. A big serve is nice but seeing longer points with sustained volleys is a lot more interesting and competitive overall IMO.
The greatest sportswriter of all-time nailed it:
"Why should you get two serves? You don't get two at-bats one right after the other in an inning. If you hit a foul pop-up, you're out. If you miss the putt in golf, that's it. The service ace is probably the single most boring thing in sports next to the foul tip anyway, but tennis encourages it by giving you a mulligan on your serve, so you can go for it on the first serve. I wonder what king thought that one up?" - Jim Murray
(Tennis would be awesome if you only got one serve - you couldn't just rear back and go for broke every serve...you would have to be strategic and choose when you would want to go for it...and the rest would be middle ground returnable serves.)
This post was edited on 5/14/16 at 11:38 pm
Posted on 5/15/16 at 8:13 am to bayouman
Still have the set of Wilson Staff irons I played for years with.
Posted on 5/15/16 at 8:18 am to LSUlefty
They should have one or two "throwback" tournaments where everyone has to play with old school equipment (1960s, not 1860s). Clubs and balls.
Posted on 5/15/16 at 8:25 am to tigerfan182
I know he OP was asking about fairly newer "old clubs" but I hit a wooden shaft mashie for a few holes back in high school. It hurt like hell when you hit the ball, then we realized they were playing with much softer wound balata balls back then and we were playing solid core polymer balls.
I don't think there was a sweet spot on that club. When I caught it right, the ball had almost no trajectory and went about 130yds. For reference my 5 iron, which is comparable to the loft of a mashie, would go 185yds.
I don't think there was a sweet spot on that club. When I caught it right, the ball had almost no trajectory and went about 130yds. For reference my 5 iron, which is comparable to the loft of a mashie, would go 185yds.
Posted on 5/15/16 at 9:37 am to Tiger Ugly
Why not just take the guys who actually lived it's words for it.
Arnie, Jack, and Player have all said numerous times that the guys playing today are better than they were. And Jack has said multiple times that tiger is the best golfer he has ever seen including himself.
Arnie, Jack, and Player have all said numerous times that the guys playing today are better than they were. And Jack has said multiple times that tiger is the best golfer he has ever seen including himself.
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