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re: Anyone been on SSRI's for 20+ years?

Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:25 pm to
Posted by Ed Osteen
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Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:25 pm to
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Id like to know what percentage of anti deprresent users have any kind of neurological tests to confirm a brain chemistry imbalance before being prescribed as opposed to how many go to a doctor that likes to write scripts for Xanax and has a "psych evaluation" and is give a prescription.


So if someone is suicidal, you would still rather them take some brain scans to prove it? Getting a brain MRI for depression isn't a common practice at all
This post was edited on 1/10/19 at 2:26 pm
Posted by AU_251
Your dads room
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:25 pm to
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Mingo Was His NameO



God I wish I could see you in person right now. Nothing boils my blood like the incredible ignorance you are spewing. You literally know nothing and I would love to beat your teeth in
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:26 pm to
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I've been out smarting people since I was a fetus


You shouldn't confuse agility with intelligence.
Posted by AU_251
Your dads room
Member since Feb 2013
12107 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:26 pm to
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but these drugs have negative effects on your brain in the long run.


SSRI's do? You must have access to new research that noone else does! God damn why do people spout this shite... just stfu if you don't know anything about the topic at hand.
Posted by Gnarkilleptic
Member since Jan 2019
63 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:27 pm to
You are not capable of extrapolating the data points or wise enough to even begin to understand brain chemistry. Your opinion and cherry picking of statistics is about on par with poliboard logic and reasoning.

I’m impressed you’re able to drag arse to the social security office for your government benefits let alone use the internet.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:27 pm to
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You come across as the biggest douche on here.



He does it on purpose, there's multiple people telling him this and he will still try to argue with them
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:27 pm to
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People seem to get better faster and more frequently with SSRI or other antidepressants than placebo


I don't dispute that because the pills definitely alter your brain.

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The mechanism is postulated but not certain. They are surely over prescribed because people can’t be bothered to do actual mental status exams thoroughly. That doesn’t change the fact that there are people who benefit from them.


That's kind of my point. It's the same concept of cholesterol medicine. Many, many sufferers of high cholesterol could reverse their problems naturally through diet, exercise, and lifestyle changes, but they'd rather just take a pill everyday. Every single medicine has side effects, and my arguement is that we should be encouraging people to make natural changes to their life, not eat pills for the rest of it.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:29 pm to
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God I wish I could see you in person right now. Nothing boils my blood like the incredible ignorance you are spewing. You literally know nothing and I would love to beat your teeth in


You sound angry, eat another pill it'll make you feel better.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:29 pm to
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And your resounding credentials are? Im using statistics and common human evolution as my basis for opinion. You seem to be using emotion as yours.


I am a board certified medical physicist that has worked for 35 years in the development of MRI imaging, and functional MRI for use in the diagnosis of neurological disease.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
36109 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:30 pm to
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So if someone is suicidal, you would still rather them take some brain scans to prove it? Getting a brain MRI for depression isn't a common practice at all


There's clearly levels here, which is kind of my entire arguement.

But let's resolve into extreme emotion and hyperbole instead of having reason
Posted by AU_251
Your dads room
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:30 pm to
I'll give you my address if you'd like to come discuss this further? I promise you won't say a thing you have said in this thread to my face. Cmon big boy, you're tough right?
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
36109 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:30 pm to
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I am a board certified medical physicist that has worked for 35 years in the development of MRI imaging, and functional MRI for use in the diagnosis of neurological disease.


In another thread you were a retired Bakker?
Posted by BlindTiger7
Houston
Member since Sep 2016
2900 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:31 pm to
Your body gets use to taking this everyday, so what happens when you stop?
Posted by Gnarkilleptic
Member since Jan 2019
63 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:32 pm to
Nothing you’ve said could resemble reason.

Opinions and emotional responses after being called a dip shite sure but you don’t even have the intellectual honesty to cite or source any of these statistics and opinions you seem to cling so dear to.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
36109 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:32 pm to
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I promise you won't say a thing you have said in this thread to my face


Sure I would as I'm capable of having logical debate even with people I disagree with.

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Cmon big boy, you're tough right?



Being tough doesn't have anything to do with it really.
Posted by STLDawg
The Lou
Member since Apr 2015
4412 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:32 pm to
Any doctor worth his salt does exactly this. Encouraging talk therapy (CBT in particular) and mental health hygiene can be first line and should be used to prevent relapse.

The discussion to discontinue meds is complicated, balancing a lot of patient factors. I honestly don’t disagree with your assessment of some people relying on pills too much. I think there are more informed ways about reducing their use though.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
58779 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:32 pm to
You didn't answer the question
Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:32 pm to
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Good thing you’re not a doctor. Also, I suspect his grandfather would be proud of him taking the steps to safeguard his health despite what internet know-it-all’s say.


Don't even try. Someone who has never had a bout of true clinical depression or anxiety cannot even begin to fathom the hell that a person with it goes through. I suspect alot of the "just be happy you pussy" folks are either straight trolls or have never experienced the terrifying effects of true clinical depression.
Posted by AU_251
Your dads room
Member since Feb 2013
12107 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:34 pm to
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Don't even try. Someone who has never had a bout of true clinical depression or anxiety cannot even begin to fathom the hell that a person with it goes through. I suspect alot of the "just be happy you pussy" folks are either straight trolls or have never experienced the terrifying effects of true clinical depression.


I truly pity them. That kind of incredible ignorance would take lifetimes to overcome
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
36109 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:34 pm to
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Any doctor worth his salt does exactly this. Encouraging talk therapy (CBT in particular) and mental health hygiene can be first line and should be used to prevent relapse.


I don't disagree and again, comparing this to cholesterol, I think many doctors just hand out pills for a multitude of reasons. I'm not putting this entirely on patients.

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The discussion to discontinue meds is complicated, balancing a lot of patient factors


A lot more complicated than starting them. Another reason, starting should be such a thoroughly sought out thing.
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