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Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:09 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Considering suicide rates are higher now than basically ever, I disagree. So either, something has caused a huge spike in a change of brain chemistry in one to two decades (doubtful) or people are just soft.
You have no clue at all about clinical depression.
Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:09 pm to REG861
Seeing as I have a BS and MS, I'd say that you are grasping...
Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:10 pm to magicman534
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I still had an electric shock sensation that would occur occasionally.
I remember the first time I experienced "brain zaps" it freaked me out.
Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:11 pm to REG861
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A decent number of posters here (mr. smith) regard science as an existential threat so you're wasting your time bringing up brain chemistry and neurology.
Id like to know what percentage of anti deprresent users have any kind of neurological tests to confirm a brain chemistry imbalance before being prescribed as opposed to how many go to a doctor that likes to write scripts for Xanax and has a "psych evaluation" and is give a prescription.
Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:13 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
If you don’t think clinical diagnosis of psychiatric conditions is valid, I don’t know what to tell you.
Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:14 pm to EA6B
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You have no clue at all about clinical depression
And your resounding credentials are?
Im using statistics and common human evolution as my basis for opinion. You seem to be using emotion as yours.
I'm willing to change my opinion as I'm certainly no expert, but the only arguement I've seen in this thread is "you just don't understand mental illness" which is less than convincing.
Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:17 pm to STLDawg
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If you don’t think clinical diagnosis of psychiatric conditions is valid, I don’t know what to tell you.
I don't think it's invalid and I think it's about the least scientific way to do it. The amount of anti deprresents being taken now even compared to 2p years ago is astronomically higher. Some of that is due to availability and lessening of the stigma of mental health, I'm sure, but in my opinion, a lot of it is societal too.
"im going through a divorce and I'm sad!"
Prescribed and subsequently addicted to anti deprresents.
Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:17 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Is it your goal to come off as an idiot on this board?
Cause if so....you have surpassed that goal
Cause if so....you have surpassed that goal
Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:20 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
The correlation between the number of times a mental illneses gets diagnosed is directly linked to the availablility of a prescription drug to treat it.
Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:20 pm to High C
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my brain chemistry would be substantially changed to the point of no return.
I don't believe this is how it works.
I have been on it for 3 years. I stay on it because my anxiety is so much better with it that I don't want to come off.
However, I don't think the meds are permanently affecting my brain chemistry. I DO think I would fall back into a bad anxious state if I came off it, but that's who I am naturally.
If you come off, I believe you will go through some rough patches in the immediate future, but should level off and return to normal levels. However, if you were depressed/anxious before the meds, you will most likely be that again.
Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:21 pm to High C
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I guess to feel like I'm not dependent on psych meds anymore.
I constantly consider coming off for this very reason, but it's kind of a silly reason when you think about it. If it makes your life and mind more comfortable and better, why not utilize it. It is a tool we humans have developed for just that.
Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:22 pm to lsunurse
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Is it your goal to come off as an idiot on this board?
Cause if so....you have surpassed that goal
Because I have a different opinion that you? Seems a bit simple.
Like I've already said, I'm willing to change my opinion, but there is zero hard evidence in this thread for me to have any basis on. You are a nurse, do you have any science showing findings dipisting my thoughts?
Im not saying all anti deprresents are bad or everyone on them doesn't need them. I am disputing however, that the rapid widespread nature of their use may not be necessary or healthy
Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:22 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
The problem with a “scientific” diagnosis that you might accept, ie. neurotransmitters or fMRI is that such a technique doesn’t exist that’s sensitive and specific for diagnosis. Differences by fMRI can be found in people who are clinically depressed versus normal controls though.
People seem to get better faster and more frequently with SSRI or other antidepressants than placebo. The mechanism is postulated but not certain. They are surely over prescribed because people can’t be bothered to do actual mental status exams thoroughly. That doesn’t change the fact that there are people who benefit from them.
People seem to get better faster and more frequently with SSRI or other antidepressants than placebo. The mechanism is postulated but not certain. They are surely over prescribed because people can’t be bothered to do actual mental status exams thoroughly. That doesn’t change the fact that there are people who benefit from them.
Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:22 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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people are just soft
Its the baby boomers fault.
Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:22 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Id like to know what percentage of anti deprresent users have any kind of neurological tests to confirm a brain chemistry imbalance before being prescribed as opposed to how many go to a doctor that likes to write scripts for Xanax and has a "psych evaluation" and is give a prescription.
The level of serotonin in the blood stream is not reflective of its level in the brain. functional MRI and other test to use in depression diagnosis are in the very early stages of research. At this time the only effective diagnostic tool is the "psych evaluation"
Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:22 pm to ClientNumber9
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Prozac and Xanax for 20+ years? Jesus Christ. I'd love to drop people like you off in sub-Saharan Africa or Pakistan or some other shithole for six months. When you've got no healthcare, no food or clean water, civil wars, and your lifespan is 40, you've got a reason for the anxiety.
Somewhere, your grandfather is calling you a pussy.
god damn I can't imagine being this ignorant. We are incredibly lucky we have access to such meds. People with mental health issues in the countries you listed probably just kill themselves instead. Way better, right?!
Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:23 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
You come across as the biggest douche on here.
Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:23 pm to ClientNumber9
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Somewhere, your grandfather is calling you a pussy.
my grandfather (my mom's dad) killed himself because he was bed ridden with depression for the majority of his life. I never got to meet him. I surely wish brain meds were available then like they are now. Shut the frick up.
Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:24 pm to AU_251
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We are incredibly lucky we have access to such meds
Are we though? Yeah they may help you out in the short run, but these drugs have negative effects on your brain in the long run.
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