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Any docs/nurses on here who treat covid patients? Got questions
Posted on 4/11/20 at 9:18 pm
Posted on 4/11/20 at 9:18 pm
1) what is the most O2 you can be on per NC?
2) what happens if pt is not better of day 5 of hydroxy?
3) what day "generally" does the hydroxy kick in to help if it's going to (assume no z pack being given)
Thanks.
2) what happens if pt is not better of day 5 of hydroxy?
3) what day "generally" does the hydroxy kick in to help if it's going to (assume no z pack being given)
Thanks.
Posted on 4/11/20 at 9:26 pm to tiger91
I can answer 1. 6 lPM
I'm assuming they are either busy taking care of patients or sleeping. I'm interested in the answers to 2 and 3.
I'm assuming they are either busy taking care of patients or sleeping. I'm interested in the answers to 2 and 3.
This post was edited on 4/11/20 at 9:27 pm
Posted on 4/11/20 at 9:32 pm to UncleD7734
This resident is on ** 7.5L ** at one point ... O2 is finally at like 90-95; at one point it was 80 (nc came off while resident was sleeping according to nurses notes); they changed the tubing to high flow, did cpt, then laid her prone and it came back up.
I was mistaken -- zithromax was given 250 qd x 5 days starting on the 4 ... the hydroxy was started on the 9 so they did overlap (maybe if the pharmacy got it there when they should have).
I'm working from home with EMR so I'm keeping up with the residents condition. Worried about her for sure.
I was mistaken -- zithromax was given 250 qd x 5 days starting on the 4 ... the hydroxy was started on the 9 so they did overlap (maybe if the pharmacy got it there when they should have).
I'm working from home with EMR so I'm keeping up with the residents condition. Worried about her for sure.
Posted on 4/11/20 at 9:43 pm to tiger91
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Posted on 4/11/20 at 9:46 pm to Apollyon
1) yes they changed to high flow tubing
3) They started the zithro I guess when the chest xray showed "something" while they waited to get flu/covid results back. By the time covid results came back the z pack was on the last day and the hydroxy was just starting.
And by kick in I meant how long do they take to start working. Yeah, different population -- glad that they can manage her thus far there. And she's not on zinc.
3) They started the zithro I guess when the chest xray showed "something" while they waited to get flu/covid results back. By the time covid results came back the z pack was on the last day and the hydroxy was just starting.
And by kick in I meant how long do they take to start working. Yeah, different population -- glad that they can manage her thus far there. And she's not on zinc.
This post was edited on 4/11/20 at 9:47 pm
Posted on 4/11/20 at 9:52 pm to Apollyon
70 ... and from what I gather is still full code and family members x3 haven't been able to be reached to discuss code status. Imagine coding someone less than 100#. I'm so sad about this situation. I'm praying that she pulls through.
Posted on 4/11/20 at 10:00 pm to tiger91
Nm
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Posted on 4/11/20 at 10:21 pm to Apollyon
Sadly, htn, copd, a current pressure ulcer -- mental issues as well. Sweet resident that I've worked with for 10 years.
Thanks for the information. Time will tell.
Thanks for the information. Time will tell.
Posted on 4/11/20 at 10:23 pm to tiger91
Ah. I am sorry to hear that.
Godspeed to her. Hoping she perseveres.
Godspeed to her. Hoping she perseveres.
Posted on 4/11/20 at 10:23 pm to Apollyon
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1) high flow nasal cannula? Up to 15 LPM.
You can run HFNC up to 40 liters, and anything under 20 isn’t doing what it’s supposed to do... with an adjustment in FIO2 up t 100%
Low flow is up to 6LPM... You use the rule of four. FIO2 increases 4% with every liter flow...
This post was edited on 4/11/20 at 10:29 pm
Posted on 4/11/20 at 10:24 pm to tiger91
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70yo
So when you say resident, you don’t mean an MD?
Posted on 4/11/20 at 10:27 pm to Hangover Haven
Yeah
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Posted on 4/11/20 at 10:29 pm to Apollyon
I didn’t realize they would run HF at nursing homes...
But I guess some actually have vent pt’s..
But I guess some actually have vent pt’s..
This post was edited on 4/11/20 at 10:31 pm
Posted on 4/11/20 at 10:31 pm to Hangover Haven
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Posted on 4/11/20 at 10:34 pm to Apollyon
HIgh flows are awesome...Especially for pt’s with nasal breakdown from bipaps...
I had to re-tube a pt today when he crapped out on Bipap, 20/10, 100%, sats bottomed out in the low 80s, and as usual at the end of the shift...
I had to re-tube a pt today when he crapped out on Bipap, 20/10, 100%, sats bottomed out in the low 80s, and as usual at the end of the shift...
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Posted on 4/11/20 at 10:45 pm to Hangover Haven
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Posted on 4/11/20 at 10:58 pm to Hangover Haven
Note just says tube was changed to high flow tubing .. and I was wrong; she was at 9L at some point today.
As far as I've ever seen they just have the O2 machines (relatively big things) that they plug into the wall -- we've got some people on cpaps for their apnea but unless they've brought in some equipment since I was in the facility last (which it's been a month) they don't have more than that.
I mean if she needed a vent they'd have to send her out.
As far as I've ever seen they just have the O2 machines (relatively big things) that they plug into the wall -- we've got some people on cpaps for their apnea but unless they've brought in some equipment since I was in the facility last (which it's been a month) they don't have more than that.
I mean if she needed a vent they'd have to send her out.
Posted on 4/11/20 at 11:00 pm to Rust Cohle
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So when you say resident, you don’t mean an MD?
No -- resident in a ltc facility.
Posted on 4/11/20 at 11:12 pm to tiger91
If a patient is not improved after day 5 of plaquenil we just continue similar symptomatic treatment. Supplemental oxygen and treatment of the fever. Nothing else we can do.
It is hard to say when specificaly the plaquenil helps. I find that if you will need to be intubated it seems as though you will need to be intubated no matter what. It is hard to predict. Sometimes people come in with minimal oxygen requirements and then continue to increase, while some come in with higher requirements and then they improve.
It is hard to say when specificaly the plaquenil helps. I find that if you will need to be intubated it seems as though you will need to be intubated no matter what. It is hard to predict. Sometimes people come in with minimal oxygen requirements and then continue to increase, while some come in with higher requirements and then they improve.
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