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re: Another " Am I being detained " cop video but this time officer loses his cool
Posted on 4/15/14 at 9:23 pm to burgeman
Posted on 4/15/14 at 9:23 pm to burgeman
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I'm surprised with 2 law schools in br that no young, aspiring law student hasn't tried this in br
It's been done many times, only without video. I am truly grateful for some local police that were very tolerant of me and had great a great sense of humor.
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 9:37 pm to ApexTiger
quote:What part of legal don't you understand?
20 pages of defending punk because it's legal
Legal - /'legel/ adjective:
1. of, based on, or concerned with the law.
"the American legal system"
2. permitted by law
"he claimed that it had all been legal"
synonyms: lawful, legitimate, licit, within the law, legalized, valid; permissible, permitted, allowable, allowed, aboveboard, admissible, acceptable; authorized, sanctioned, licensed, constitutional;
quote:"Legal Nonsense".
If I was a cop, I'd get weary of this legal nonsense because I can't do my job effectively.
Yeah, let's just get rid of this "Legal Nonsense" so you can do your job effectively.... which is to uphold all of that "legal nonsense".
Posted on 4/15/14 at 9:39 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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So professionalism means nothing to you. The second officer knew what was up.
Contrast with this guy
LINK
LOL
A little different set of circumstances (actually a lot) Roger but a good example of being calm.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 9:47 pm to Mahootney
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Mahootney
hey thanks for misrepresenting my point.
The irony here is you kind of make my point about the frustration cops must feel on a daily bases dealing with idiots who spew their rights while disrespecting the authority which is in place to protect them under the rule of law. It's unbelievable.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 10:21 pm to Placebeaux
What a punk arse kid. I would never want to be a cop, constantly puting my life on the line to enforce law and protect the rights of ignorant douchebags like this kid
Posted on 4/15/14 at 11:14 pm to ApexTiger
quote:How dare he spew his right not to be harassed by some dumb cop (redundant, I know) who needs to find another line of work.
spew their rights
This post was edited on 4/15/14 at 11:17 pm
Posted on 4/15/14 at 11:15 pm to AlexMSU
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What a punk arse kid. I would never want to be a cop, constantly puting my life on the line to enforce law and protect the rights of ignorant douchebags like this kid
not even top 10 most dangerous job in the country. 
Posted on 4/15/14 at 11:28 pm to Tactical1
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When that cop lost his cool, he called that kid exactly what he was being.
Agree 100% if by the he (that called) and the he (was being) are the same individual, i.e., the cop (Officer Tolbert 612)
Posted on 4/15/14 at 11:29 pm to heartbreakTiger
This is the most pro-police OT thread I've seen. Must be a lot of cat lovers on.
Bottom line is this: If you can't maintain your cool in a situation this minor, then you don't need to be a police officer. This cop has serious issues, and anyone who acts like that in the private sector would be out of a job.
Bottom line is this: If you can't maintain your cool in a situation this minor, then you don't need to be a police officer. This cop has serious issues, and anyone who acts like that in the private sector would be out of a job.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 8:44 am to heartbreakTiger
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not even top 10 most dangerous job in the country.
yeah, that's why they have guns and vests because it's not dangerous
Posted on 4/16/14 at 8:49 am to econ85
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This is the most pro-police OT thread I've seen. Must be a lot of cat lovers on.
You got that wrong
60%-70% of the pro police comments have been down-voted...
this place is full of Democratic liberal voters who cry about victimization brought to you by stupid behavior...
I am not for big government or for police abusing their authority but I am for respecting what they do as servants to the public.
Some of you, many of you would just like to spit in their face and test the waters if they would be trained well enough not to retaliate.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 9:08 am to ApexTiger
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this place is full of Democratic liberal voters who cry about victimization brought to you by stupid behavior...
You can have a valid dissenting opinion, but you have ventured into the field of ridiculousness.
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I am not for big government or for police abusing their authority but I am for respecting what they do as servants to the public.
I know it's been said several time, but I'll try one more time. The guy in the video probably made a bit of an arse of himself, but he still deserves all the protections of the law as a law abiding citizen. The police officer is an agent of the law and is responsible for the proper application of the law, even when dealing with an arse. His standard of adherence to the law should be even higher than most.
Respect for authority can not and should be legislated. Challening authority is how tyrany is avoided. It should be encouraged. People gradually lose all autonomy when we just mindlessly accept what authority first tells us what we should do and then later what we have to do.
This is a principle on which the country was founded. The Consitution protects our rights to peacefully challenge authority. Again, the guy in the video was an arse in how he did this, but he was in his rights. It isn't illegal to act like an arse.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 9:09 am to DCSportsBeerMan
I wish the cop would have ripped that little punk from behind the wheel and whipped his arse.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 9:11 am to Peazey
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You can have a valid dissenting opinion, but you have ventured into the field of ridiculousness.
this is OT right?
Posted on 4/16/14 at 9:20 am to Peazey
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Respect for authority can not and should be legislated. Challening authority is how tyrany is avoided. It should be encouraged. People gradually lose all autonomy when we just mindlessly accept what authority first tells us what we should do and then later what we have to do.
This is a principle on which the country was founded. The Consitution protects our rights to peacefully challenge authority. Again, the guy in the video was an arse in how he did this, but he was in his rights. It isn't illegal to act like an arse.
I can actually agree with this line of thinking in the big picture. No question... Your comments deserve an Amen!
In this case, I don't like the punk's attitude and his deceitfulness. so I side with the police versus being critical of his response.
I have had a friend killed in the line of duty in broad day light by a young kid of similar age.
Because I know several law enforcement people, even one family member (Miami Dade county), I just appreciate the work they do and the situations they often find themselves in.
None of the one's I know fit into the category of tyranny type attitude or would even curse a citizen. The stories I've heard convince me it's a very dangerous job.
Anyone risking their lives daily as a public servant for the pay they receive is worthy of respect as an individual. I think we should respect all people regardless of position, race, religion etc.
have a good day
Posted on 4/16/14 at 9:31 am to ApexTiger
quote:This is the only point I was intersted in seeing you concede.
I can actually agree with this line of thinking in the big picture.
quote:Understandable, but his attitude doesn't devoid him of his rights.
I don't like the punk's attitude and his deceitfulness.
Some people are born assholes; they live their lives as assholes, and they'll probably die assholes.
We just have to hope that karma finds them and treats them appropriately.
It seems like you know a portion of LEO's that are a compliment to the profession, but unfortunately, the majority of the public have been exposed to a few of the cops shown in the OP's video. So, we've been prejudiced.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 9:32 am to GeauxTigerTM
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You didn't say whether you think this is good or bad.
I believe it is good as long as it is not used to fuel a baseless propaganda war.
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I addressed this earlier buy I'll do so again.
So did I:
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I realize I will take flack for writing this but
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Without even debating the statistic, I'd only say that those in my profession are in no position to detain an American citizen or certainly not in a position to take their life away by our actions. The VAST majority of all American jobs fall into that category, thankfully. It's precisely what makes your job far different than mine.
You will get no argument from me on any of those points but it is irrational to believe that human nature is different in relation to police. People make mistakes and they get angry and do stupid things. All people do not do this but MANY do and it will never stop. Things have been this way since the dawn of civilization so I don't see them changing in the near future. We can bring this bad behavior to light when it rears it's head but to believe that it will ever be eradicated is both childish and naive.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 9:32 am to ApexTiger
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Anyone risking their lives daily as a public servant for the pay they receive is worthy of respect as an individual. I think we should respect all people regardless of position, race, religion etc.
have a good day
i think generally speaking most of us agree. its a tough job, and generally i try to show respect to anyone, regardless of their spot in the social hierarchy. no need to make someones life harder just for the sake of it.
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In this case, I don't like the punk's attitude and his deceitfulness.
again, agree.
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I just appreciate the work they do and the situations they often find themselves in.
i think most of us also agree that they end up in intensely frustrating situations, and even dangerous ones (even if sometimes overstated)
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so I side with the police versus being critical of his response
see, this is where we go off the rails - you think that being anti-annoying kid means you must therefor be pro-police (and vice versa). the kid was a pain, and i wouldnt act like he did.... but even if i did a police officer shouldnt respond that way to ANY form of perceived disrespect.
This post was edited on 4/16/14 at 9:34 am
Posted on 4/16/14 at 9:36 am to NoSaint
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see, this is where we go off the rails - you think that being anti-annoying kid means you must therefor be pro-police
I think Apex is speaking for this one particular instance, not in general.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 9:37 am to Nativebullet
Me too, that way he can sue and cash a check larger than you'll ever be worth.
Some of you dim bulbs just can't grasp the fact that he did nothing illegal. NOTHING. The professional cop figured it out pretty quickly and saved his raging buddy from flushing his career and lot of tax payer money.
Some of you dim bulbs just can't grasp the fact that he did nothing illegal. NOTHING. The professional cop figured it out pretty quickly and saved his raging buddy from flushing his career and lot of tax payer money.
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