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re: After 60 Years, B-52s Still Dominate U.S. Fleet

Posted on 12/6/15 at 10:15 pm to
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
56005 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 10:15 pm to
I think that Alexandria actually has about 10,000 feet on one of their runways...not sure of the width, though.

that va tech flyover was cool as hell, man!...is there a particular altitude for flyovers or is it a function of the aircraft and crew?...
Posted by RedFoxx
New Orleans, LA
Member since Jan 2009
6000 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 10:15 pm to
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I did this flyby for the Va Tech game on Sep 11, 2004


Very cool flyby. I love the smoke coming off of those P&Ws

Did yall fly from BAD for that?
Posted by FlyingTiger06
Bossier City, LA
Member since Nov 2004
1886 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 10:19 pm to
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is there a particular altitude for flyovers or is it a function of the aircraft and crew?


Air Force regulations say we are supposed to be at 1,000 feet above ground level and maximum speed of 300 Knots in a "clean configuration" (gear and flaps up, bomb doors closed).
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
56005 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 10:23 pm to
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we are supposed to be at 1,000 feet above ground level and maximum speed of 300 Knots


makes sense...you don't really want to risk bursting 102,000 sets of eardrums in a single pass!...
Posted by FlyingTiger06
Bossier City, LA
Member since Nov 2004
1886 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 10:25 pm to
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Did yall fly from BAD for that


No. We were actually flying out of Dover AFB in New Jersey. My crew and I were set to receive an award at the Air Force Association Technology Conference in DC on the following Monday so we had taken a BUFF that way as our air transportation for that. To "justify" the taxpayer expense, they had us do some flyby's on the Saturday. On one sortie we did the Va Tech game, an airshow flyby at Danville, Kentucky, and a Sep 11th memorial flyby at Ft Scott, Kansas before returning to Dover.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 12/6/15 at 10:29 pm to
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Do you know which squadron he is in? There are several flying squadrons at Barksdale.

quote:

343rd Bomb Squadron - Reserves, combat squadron


I guess this one. Not really sure though. I know he's a reservist but has been on active duty since he transfered to the Air Force from the Marines. He was a Cobra pilot in the Corps
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 10:31 pm to
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Interesting. BTR runways are only 150 feet wide. So even if they had the length they don't have the width.


LINK

B52 landed for the first time at this years Oshkosh AirVenture, runway is 8002' x 150' they took up the landing lights on the edges of the runway to avoid interference with the wingtip gear.
Posted by RedFoxx
New Orleans, LA
Member since Jan 2009
6000 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 10:33 pm to
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B52 landed for the first time at this years Oshkosh AirVenture, runway is 8002' x 150' they took up the landing lights on the edges of the runway to avoid interference with the wingtip gear.


Yes. I remember that now. Someone posted that here on the OT. Probably was you.
Posted by FlyingTiger06
Bossier City, LA
Member since Nov 2004
1886 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 10:38 pm to
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B52 landed for the first time at this years Oshkosh AirVenture, runway is 8002' x 150' they took up the landing lights on the edges of the runway to avoid interference with the wingtip gear.


Yes, I know about this one. Was done by our Reserves and a lot of people adamantly disagreed with them doing this. Very risky proposition. I'm glad they didn't, but several things could have gone wrong that would have turned this into a catastrophic event when on a normal runway those kinds of things would have been no big deal. For example: an engine loss on takeoff or an aborted takeoff and the drag chute doesn't deploy. Both would have been very bad.
Posted by BeastMode
Member since Sep 2007
192 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 10:41 pm to
Didn't realize there was such a strong supporter for LSU at Barksdale. I would have loved to work with you to make a flyover happen. I just left the 96th last January.
Posted by FlyingTiger06
Bossier City, LA
Member since Nov 2004
1886 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 10:45 pm to
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Didn't realize there was such a strong supporter for LSU at Barksdale. I would have loved to work with you to make a flyover happen. I just left the 96th last January.


There's several of us here at KBAD. How long were you in the 96th? I've been out of the ops squadrons since leaving the 2 OSS in Jan 09. Was in the 49 TES, 53 TMG Det 1, and 340 WPS until moving over to AFGSC staff last August.
Posted by BeastMode
Member since Sep 2007
192 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 10:52 pm to
I was there for almost 4 years.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 11:07 pm to
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Yes, I know about this one. Was done by our Reserves and a lot of people adamantly disagreed with them doing this. Very risky proposition. I'm glad they didn't, but several things could have gone wrong that would have turned this into a catastrophic event when on a normal runway those kinds of things would have been no big deal. For example: an engine loss on takeoff or an aborted takeoff and the drag chute doesn't deploy. Both would have been very bad


I was at Oshkosh 2011 when a ANG F16 ran off the end of the same runway, I was walking the fenceline right where it trenched in the dirt. Lot of people ran up to get a closer look, I hauled butt in the opposite direction in anticipation of a fire and explosion, but it all ended well with no one hurt.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 11:08 pm to
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so we had taken a BUFF that way as our air transportation for that.


Now, I'm fricking jealous.

'I'm just gonna take this B-52. No big whoop.'
Posted by Johnny4lsu
Opelousas, LA
Member since Apr 2008
5143 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 11:17 pm to
This stuff is interesting.. You guys are fricking awesome
Posted by MeetTheFarkers504
NOLA
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 12/6/15 at 11:29 pm to
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It dropped the first hydrogen bomb in the Bikini Islands in 1956

Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 12:16 am to
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They also failed to mention the fact that we are getting upgrades to modernize the aircraft


No engine upgrade, no care.



This post was edited on 12/7/15 at 12:21 am
Posted by ATL-TIGER-732
ATL
Member since Jun 2013
2291 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 1:26 am to
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makes sense...you don't really want to risk bursting 102,000 sets of eardrums in a single pass!...

GT vs WF 2009 - Flyover [HD] - Two F-18s - Georgia Tech

Pilots grounded for good after low flyover
This post was edited on 12/7/15 at 1:28 am
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 6:17 am to
I used to hear that they were older than the guys flying them back when guys my age were flying it.

We are probably about 10 years away from somebody flying a plane older than his grand dad.

I know it is a modern plane in an old body but that is still kind of cool. If anybody on the design team is still alive somebody ought to do an interview with them.
Posted by FlyingTiger06
Bossier City, LA
Member since Nov 2004
1886 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 7:14 am to
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No engine upgrade, no care.


We're trying. Need some of you OT Ballers to chip in on the up to $8 billion bill to do it. Or convince Congress to give the AF the money. Right now we're trying to build the case that even if you pay that amount of money up front, you'd still save money in the long term through decreased fuel and engine overhaul costs.

However, if we do upgrade the engines it will still be an 8 engine aircraft and not 4. Switching to a 4 engine configuration would be almost twice as expensive and not really gain anything. Having 8 also allows for way more redundancy. Go ask any other aircraft if they can shut down two engines inflight and still continue the mission.
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