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re: A person born in 1981 is a Millennial or Generation X?
Posted on 4/3/16 at 1:22 pm to Joshjrn
Posted on 4/3/16 at 1:22 pm to Joshjrn
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There's a very small sub-generation that didn't come of age before the IT revolution, and didn't come of age after, but seemed to grow up with it, as part of it.
That's me. When I was 18 I thought the internet was a waste of time and something 'nerds' did. By the time I was 28 I couldn't live without it.
(79er here, btw)
Posted on 4/3/16 at 1:45 pm to northshorebamaman
I cannot believe this conversation still occurs.
Each successive generation is worse than the one before it. Go back to Ancient Greece and you'll find text of older men shitting on the generation of younger men because they don't hold to the old ideals. You know why? We hold onto the past through faulty memory. It's nostalgia. We glorify the first generation as having been the embodiment of who we should be as a society. Julius Caesar was a dandy and subversive manipulator to Cato, who was steadfast in the camp of returning to a strong Republic and the old virtues, but was the greatest man to have ever lived to Augustus or Marcus Aurelius.
It doesn't matter. We can label ourselves as whatever we want. It's all nonsense. At the end of the day, we are simply human. Each Millennial is different, just like each Gen Xer is different. The only thing that doesn't change is that the older generations inevitably think they are better than the younger generations because the younger generations are "soft" or basically don't live up to the ideals that the older generation perceives as vital.
It's all garbage. All of it. Societies change and evolve. One day, the "Millennials" will be stodgy old fricks and look at the "Double 20s" generation (or whatever the hell we're going to call kids born after 2020) and say, "They don't have any idea what it used to be like! We used to have to type with our hands!!" I mean, fricking A, people. Wake up to the idiocy.
Each successive generation is worse than the one before it. Go back to Ancient Greece and you'll find text of older men shitting on the generation of younger men because they don't hold to the old ideals. You know why? We hold onto the past through faulty memory. It's nostalgia. We glorify the first generation as having been the embodiment of who we should be as a society. Julius Caesar was a dandy and subversive manipulator to Cato, who was steadfast in the camp of returning to a strong Republic and the old virtues, but was the greatest man to have ever lived to Augustus or Marcus Aurelius.
It doesn't matter. We can label ourselves as whatever we want. It's all nonsense. At the end of the day, we are simply human. Each Millennial is different, just like each Gen Xer is different. The only thing that doesn't change is that the older generations inevitably think they are better than the younger generations because the younger generations are "soft" or basically don't live up to the ideals that the older generation perceives as vital.
It's all garbage. All of it. Societies change and evolve. One day, the "Millennials" will be stodgy old fricks and look at the "Double 20s" generation (or whatever the hell we're going to call kids born after 2020) and say, "They don't have any idea what it used to be like! We used to have to type with our hands!!" I mean, fricking A, people. Wake up to the idiocy.
Posted on 4/3/16 at 1:50 pm to LoveThatMoney
I'm not sure if anyone is saying that one generation is better than another. I'm certainly not. Doesn't change the fact that I think it's interesting to keep in mind the formative pressures each generation was subjected to.
Posted on 4/3/16 at 1:53 pm to biglego
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Either way, you bitches born in 1986 or whatever aren't in.
Yeah, you little bastards will never be in the X club. Deal with it.
Posted on 4/3/16 at 1:54 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i went down a hole of the impending collapse a few days ago and almost convinced myself to buy one because it will be valuable in that case
Maybe as a club Slow but not for much else.
Posted on 4/3/16 at 1:55 pm to genuineLSUtiger
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Yeah, you little bastards will never be in the X club. Deal with it.
Thank god. Enjoy that closet full of hairband cutoff t-shirts
Posted on 4/3/16 at 1:56 pm to SlowFlowPro
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and ungroomed pubic hair
Crime against human decency.
Posted on 4/3/16 at 1:58 pm to Joshjrn
people may hate us but we've done a lot of great things for humanity like the proliferation of porn, pubic hair grooming, and online memes
Posted on 4/3/16 at 2:00 pm to SlowFlowPro
We had a discussion about this on here last year. Think the consensus was that '84 was the line of demarcation. Im an '85 baby :!
Posted on 4/3/16 at 2:05 pm to LoveThatMoney
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It doesn't matter. We can label ourselves as whatever we want. It's all nonsense. At the end of the day, we are simply human. Each Millennial is different, just like each Gen Xer is different. The only thing that doesn't change is that the older generations inevitably think they are better than the younger generations because the younger generations are "soft" or basically don't live up to the ideals that the older generation perceives as vital.
I don't think the conversation is what you are implying, at least it isn't for me. I think it's interesting to compare and contrast different generations based on shared experiences, world events, whatever, especially these days. From the dawn of time until fairly recently, change was slow and steady. Now we've seen it speed up to the point that there are real differences between generations. Some of us like to talk about it. It's not about feeling superior to anyone.
Posted on 4/3/16 at 2:18 pm to northshorebamaman
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I don't think the conversation is what you are implying
I disagree. Perhaps for some, maybe you included, it is a discussion of when Gen X ends and Gen Y begins and it's all very intellectual. For others, the rhetoric is pretty clear that being a Gen Xer is superior to being a Millennial. That Millennials are "bad." If you disagree with my reading of this thread, that's fine, but to me, the people in this thread are doing exactly what generations have done since the dawn of history and it's hilarious.
Posted on 4/3/16 at 2:22 pm to LoveThatMoney
There's always a few that make those kinds of comments. I just skim past them. Pretty silly to judge worth by birth year.
Posted on 4/3/16 at 2:31 pm to LoveThatMoney
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But, no, the typical 34 year old doesn't really identify with the complete nut jobs that are 18-22 year olds in America today.
The 34 year olds probably started the "everyone gets a trophy" generation............but the 18-22 year olds have taken that shite right off the deep end into the "words hurt me, never offend me..........EVER" generation.
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FML, I'm a Millennial. Born in 1981 but don't act like the rest of the douche bags.
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Seriously, I'm 81 as well and I certainly don't fit the bill....except that I love craft beer and have a full beard.
frick!
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was honestly born on Dec 31 1979. Gen X by 4 hours. Yeah baby! Screw all you panty waste millenials!
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You do know that craft beer started before you, you self-centered millennial, don't you?
Even this has a tinge of disapproval relating to Millennials:
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Born in 84 and certainly not a millennial. You'll find very few millennial traits in anyone born before 85.
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If they want to do a lot things, are robotic and need much hand holding in the workforce, they are millenial
There are plenty of people who keep saying something akin to: "I'm technically a Millennial, but I don't identify as such," which is an attempt by those people to distance themselves from the rhetoric surrounding Millennials, which is that they're lazy and entitled and blah blah blah.
This thread is filled with this type of stuff.
This post was edited on 4/3/16 at 2:32 pm
Posted on 4/3/16 at 3:09 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
Do you even "Generation Y" bro?
X ends in 1979
X ends in 1979
Posted on 4/3/16 at 3:10 pm to LoveThatMoney
one fascinating aspect of this is related to the neural networking change i spoke of earlier and things like the flynn effect. new generations become smarter, develop new cognitive processes, and this creates new concepts/services that lead to the next generation following in kind
old people distrust/dislike the younger generations b/c their brains are literally not wired to be able to comprehend the new paradigms. there are even communication barriers between people of too far of an age difference. it's really just crazy shite
and the gap is widening and speeding up as innovation increases
this is actually one reason why i hate things like immortality and all the anti-aging crowd. they MUST die to be replaced so that new ideas can be allowed to grow and develop. it's all just crazy shite that hits on various aspects of our subconscious and psyches
old people distrust/dislike the younger generations b/c their brains are literally not wired to be able to comprehend the new paradigms. there are even communication barriers between people of too far of an age difference. it's really just crazy shite
and the gap is widening and speeding up as innovation increases
this is actually one reason why i hate things like immortality and all the anti-aging crowd. they MUST die to be replaced so that new ideas can be allowed to grow and develop. it's all just crazy shite that hits on various aspects of our subconscious and psyches
Posted on 4/3/16 at 3:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
I actually think humanity is deevolving, Slow. Too much human reliance on technology is not a positive thing.
Posted on 4/3/16 at 3:17 pm to genuineLSUtiger
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Too much human reliance on technology is not a positive thing.
this is a perfect illustration of the bias i spoke of earlier
tell me when you think humans had it juuuuuust right in terms of technology
i'm willing to bet that if you're honest, it is a time centered around your developmental peak (b/c that's how you grew to see the world)
regardless, there are people who are older than the time period who thought that humans relied too much on technology
Posted on 4/3/16 at 3:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
Many experts also think the Singularity is a real possibility. That can only be accomplished by an over reliance by the human race on technology to solve our problems. The only problem I can see is that by the time humanity realizes that endless technological advancement is a bad things it will be too late. But, then again, I have come to almost think that the human race needs to disappear for the long term good of the Universe. 
Posted on 4/3/16 at 3:30 pm to genuineLSUtiger
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The only problem I can see is that by the time humanity realizes that endless technological advancement is a bad things it will be too late.
Are you one of those people that think the Tower of Babel was actually a massive energy harnessing piece of technology and that it's destruction set humanity back to the Stone Age?
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