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re: A new way to measure poverty shows the US falling behind Europe

Posted on 4/10/26 at 6:10 am to
Posted by holdmuh keystonelite
Member since Oct 2020
4653 posts
Posted on 4/10/26 at 6:10 am to
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has this become the default reply when a poster doesn't have any rationale, logical response to something that doesn't confirm his worldview?



So I can mark you down as believing in this very leftist article/site?
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63688 posts
Posted on 4/10/26 at 6:13 am to
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He's comparing the US to Germany, France, & UK - last time I checked.......


To the typical OTer, those are communist countries.
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
12703 posts
Posted on 4/10/26 at 6:19 am to
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As of 2025, the time needed to earn $1 is 63 minutes in the US. This is about twice the average across Germany, France and the UK. In Germany, Europe’s largest economy, it takes 26 minutes. In France, the figure is 31 minutes, while in the UK it rises slightly to 34 minutes.


How about you also subtract taxes and other costs in Europe that we don’t have to pay in the US?


But I will say this in the US there are hidden taxes like healthcare costs, that vary from state to state and is income dependent, if you get subsidized healthcare and you have other costs where if you live in an urban center, you don’t need additional expenses like a car because of mass transit, but that varies in different places on both sides of the pond.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
33510 posts
Posted on 4/10/26 at 6:20 am to
Yes US wage growth has severely stagnated in the lower and middle ranges

Blame corporate profits but also blame huge artificial increases in the workforce competing for these jobs by immigration, illegal immigration, H1Bs, and corporate outsourcing of manufacturing and labor as globalism
Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
Member since Nov 2008
17062 posts
Posted on 4/10/26 at 6:45 am to
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Average poverty builds on a simple intuition. If someone I’ll call Alex earns half as much as someone else I’ll call Barbara, then Barbara is twice as rich as Alex and Alex is twice as poor as Barbara.


This is all you really have to read to know his methodology is biased because he's more concerned about "inequality" than anything.

It's flawed thinking. Just because I'm 99.9999% poorer than Elon Musk, doesn't mean I'm bad off. He's putting more weight on the super wealthy, which of course will make the US look bad.

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This means that poverty can be defined as the inverse of income, and its unit is simply inverted. If incomes are measured in dollars per day, poverty is measured in days per dollar.


Wait a second, am I understanding this correctly? He's basically just inverting income to measure poverty? This means the higher the average income the more the poverty?
This post was edited on 4/10/26 at 8:40 am
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
13233 posts
Posted on 4/10/26 at 7:08 am to
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The $1 is measured in international dollars. This means it buys the same amount of goods and services in any country as a US dollar does in the United States. It is often used alongside purchasing power parity (PPP) data. The “time” refers to a day of life for anyone, at any age and in any circumstance — not just the hours worked by someone with a job.

Half of our adult population doesn't do a damn thing for a living and this also factors in kids...if I'm reading it correctly.

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