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A disruptive peer in elementary school leads to a 3% decrease in future earnings

Posted on 8/21/26 at 11:10 am
Posted by anc
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Posted on 8/21/26 at 11:10 am


Fascinating reading. Misbehaving students exact a measurable, economic cost on peers.
Posted by Bwmdx
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 8/21/26 at 11:16 am to
“One bad apple spoils the bunch”. Grandma was right again.
Posted by blizzle
Dallas, TX
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 8/21/26 at 11:19 am to
Uh, trigger warning, sir. The correct terminology is "discipline optional students"
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 8/21/26 at 11:19 am to
3 bans
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Posted by Shexter
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Posted on 8/21/26 at 11:24 am to

3% per disruptive peer in a class of 20 disruptives

Does this work similar to compounding interest?
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/21/26 at 11:26 am to
I'm a firm believer that school systems should use the tech they used during COVID to hand these families a log in and a password when their kids can't behave and force them into online school.

Should get around a lot of states that require public education access for everyone.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 8/21/26 at 11:27 am to
Restorative Justice!

Least Restrictive Environment!!

Paying dividends, I see…
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/21/26 at 11:44 am to
this is the perfect example of why we need to get the top 70-80% of students away from the bottom 20% as fast as possible

We have to stop letting the bottom 20% control society. It starts in elementary school

we need full on school choice with money following the kids, more private schools(they keep ability to accept who they want & over how/what to teach) and need to leave the bottom 20% behind to fend for themselves in public schools.

why? because frick them, thats why
Posted by Pepperoni
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Posted on 8/21/26 at 12:32 pm to
"The study found that having a disruptive classmate can have long-term effects. In a class of 25, having one additional disruptive student can lower test scores and reduce future earnings by about 3%. Even one year of exposure can have a lasting impact. The researchers estimate that this effect is similar to having a teacher whose quality is significantly lower, and that one year of exposure could reduce classmates’ future earnings by about $80,000."

It is an interesting study.

Done using Alachua County Florida school data

Elementary school student records: Students in Alachua County, Florida, mainly from 3rd–5th grades, used to identify students and their classmates.

Domestic violence court records: Public records of domestic violence cases in Alachua County from 1993–2003, including names, addresses, and filing dates, used to identify students connected to domestic violence.

Florida Department of Education test scores: Standardized math and reading test scores from grades 6–10, used to measure students’ later academic performance.

College enrollment and degree data:
Information through 2012 on college attendance, courses, and degrees from the Florida Department of Education and the National Student Clearinghouse.

Earnings data: Quarterly earnings from 2000–2013 for students working in Florida, adjusted to 2013 dollars, with a focus on earnings between ages 24–28.
Posted by TigerHornII
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 8/21/26 at 12:52 pm to
Demographics for the county in 2000:

No amount of editing will fix the formatting. 1st column is total population, 2nd column is incarcerated population, third column is non-incarcerated population.

Reported in
Census 2000 Incarcerated
Total 217,955 1,506 216,449
White 160,128 521 159,607
Black 42,062 943 41,119
Latino 12,493 57 12,436
This post was edited on 8/21/26 at 12:54 pm
Posted by Rex Feral
Somewhere near Athens
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 8/21/26 at 12:56 pm to
Does secrant count as a disruptive peer for adults?
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
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Posted on 8/21/26 at 12:59 pm to
quote:

why? because frick them, thats why


Posted by Pepperoni
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Posted on 8/21/26 at 1:33 pm to
Posted by RaginCajunz
Member since Mar 2009
7346 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 1:47 pm to
Brock Boudreaux owes me thousands now
Posted by Lush
Nola
Member since Jul 2023
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Posted on 8/21/26 at 2:54 pm to
Apologies to all my elementary school classmates.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 8/21/26 at 2:55 pm to
There is zero chance those findings are dialed in so tight that they can detect a 3 percent variance.

Posted by Wraytex
San Antonio - Gonzales
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 8/21/26 at 3:09 pm to
Did this study include learing centers?
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 8/21/26 at 3:15 pm to
That's dumb, every kid who has ever gone through elementary school has had a disruptive kid at some point.
Posted by RaginCajunz
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 8/21/26 at 3:16 pm to
quote:

That's dumb, every kid who has ever gone through elementary school has had a disruptive kid at some point.



BROCK? How you been baw?
Posted by iosman987
Member since Feb 2020
69 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 3:25 pm to
It makes sense that classroom disruptions affect everyone's learning environment, but seeing a measurable long-term economic cost on future earnings is pretty eye-opening.
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