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re: 65% of teachers are ‘uncomfortable’ with returning to school, survey from AEA says
Posted on 7/29/20 at 12:28 pm to greygoose
Posted on 7/29/20 at 12:28 pm to greygoose
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I know a young teacher. She went into education because she couldn't do the "math" that a marketing degree required. She teaches at an elementary school, teaching all subjects, including math.
You mentioned 1 person. There’s over 3 million teachers in the country.
I can find someone in any profession who sucks at what they do.
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Posted on 7/29/20 at 12:29 pm to tduecen
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It's a perfect example of that
How? Explain to us how going to school is babysitting? Explain how it would be feasible for the average working class family to quit their jobs, live in poverty and home school their children. Explain to us how that is the best approach to take.
Posted on 7/29/20 at 12:30 pm to Jesterea
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Look, I really don’t want to come at you from the mindset of an argument, but you keep citing content knowledge as a thing of whether it’s hard or not....
Content knowledge is about the least important thing that matters at any level. I don’t think educators should be held up as heroes, but the anyone can do it thing is just false—like it would be with most jobs.
Communication, organization, and patience are all far more valuable to teaching math than actually having a complex understanding of mathematics.
Nearly half of all new teachers leave within the first five years. At title 1 schools, the burnout rate is insane.
You could attribute it to the types of people who go into education, but the reality is, not everyone can do it, because even most teachers can’t do it for longer than a few years.
It’s why there are nation wide shortages.
Most people don’t have the patience. Is it the hardest job ever? No. Does it require the most sophisticated knowledge? No. But if it was such an easy job to do with a decent (though stagnated) wage, then people wouldn’t leave it in droves every year.
I agree with most of what you posted, I certainly wouldn't do that job mostly because I don't want to make peanuts and deal with parents that don't give a shite until they think their kid was "disrespected".
I have never heard of a teacher shortage. They are pumping them out left and right in Alabama. So much, that most are having a hard time finding a job.
I didn't make up the widely known saying "Those that can do. Those that can't, teach."
Let's be fair, most teachers didn't become teachers because they had some kind of calling to teach kids. At the end of the day, it's a comparably easy degree to get, the job has pretty good benefits, and you get the Summer off.
My hat's off to the good teachers, who do it because they love it. Unfortunately, the schools aren't filled with those kind of teachers. One of the dumbest people I have ever met, was a school teacher. She's now a counselor. She wanted to be a marriage counselor.......she's been married 4 times before she was 30. Twice to the same guy.
Posted on 7/29/20 at 12:31 pm to RealityTiger
I said this thread where many people have mentioned how teachers are glorified baby sitters that require no real education. Can you keep up or not? Cool you don't meet the mold and you are 1 of what 200 replies?
This post was edited on 7/29/20 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 7/29/20 at 12:33 pm to greygoose
Posted on 7/29/20 at 12:35 pm to tduecen
quote:How many? Which specific ones?
many people have mentioned how teachers are glorified baby sitters that require no real education
quote:Oh I can keep up just fine, dickhead. Thanks for asking though.
Can you keep up or not
quote:I'm pretty sure that my situation is pretty much the average situation. It's not like I claim that me and my wife are "parents of the year" or anything. Maybe compared to some of the trashy parents from other schools in the area where the parents don't give a shite about their kids.
Cool you don't meet the mold and you are 1 of what 200 replies?
Posted on 7/29/20 at 12:37 pm to tduecen
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I said this thread where many people have mentioned how teachers are glorified baby sitters that require no real education. Can you keep up or not?
I just did a quick word search through every page of the thread. Didn't see that anywhere.
Posted on 7/29/20 at 12:40 pm to Shooter
They get to sit at home and get paid while I have to be the teacher (with no pay) after my 8 hour work day
Posted on 7/29/20 at 12:41 pm to greygoose
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I know a young teacher. She went into education because she couldn't do the "math" that a marketing degree required. She teaches at an elementary school, teaching all subjects, including math.
And one of my coworkers graduated from Vandy with a Biochem and Chemical Biology degree, Biochem Masters from WKU. He fell in love with teaching when he was subbing part-time while in grad school. So there's that.
Posted on 7/29/20 at 12:44 pm to CatsGoneWild
quote:FIFY
They get to sit at home and get paid for 6 hours of dicking off and maybe 2 hours of actual work (still in their pj's) while I have to be the teacher (with no pay) after my 12 hour work day
Posted on 7/29/20 at 12:46 pm to greygoose
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I know tons of "educators".
We know. If I was going to shite on doctors, I would start by saying that I know tons of doctors.
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. I also know another person, who rose to a VERY high position in education. Let's just say, I have never been wowed by his intellect.
It’s starting to seem like you associate yourself with low IQ people.
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Let's face it, teaching social studies, basic math, and reading isn't exactly a job only a person with a high IQ can do.
Have you tried to teach a classroom full of 7 year olds? What about inner-city youth? What about high school kids who sleep on their desks. Knowing the content does not make a teacher.
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That being said, a lot of teachers don't want to go back to the classroom, but have no issue shopping at Wal-Mart. Why is it the average Wal-Mart worker can be around the public for 8 hours/day,
This is jumping the rails
Posted on 7/29/20 at 12:48 pm to tduecen
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tduecen
Yep, huge shortage. An acquaintance of mine, is now on her 2nd school job in 3 years. She didn't leave the first because she wanted to.
The article you posted, stated that there is a huge problem with current teachers, teaching outside their field. No shite! PE teachers and elementary teachers are a dime a dozen, and I think we all know why that is. PE teacher, who has his "class" watch Disney movies because it's too hot to go outside, (this actually happened to my daughter in Kindergarten) makes the same as the teacher who teaches algebra and geometry. Years back, Alabama required teachers to take some kind of competency test. When a shite ton failed it, it was deemed racist, and scrapped. If you want to improve education in this country, a good place to start would be getting rid of tenure, and making pay, merit based.
Posted on 7/29/20 at 12:53 pm to greygoose
Teaching shortage...
Still doesn’t think there’s a teaching shortage...
Yes...there is a teaching shortage
The shortage isn’t because people can’t get jobs in the field, it’s because many people don’t stay in the field.
Still doesn’t think there’s a teaching shortage...
Yes...there is a teaching shortage
The shortage isn’t because people can’t get jobs in the field, it’s because many people don’t stay in the field.
Posted on 7/29/20 at 12:55 pm to TexasTiger08
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The shortage isn’t because people can’t get jobs in the field, it’s because many people don’t stay in the field.
I have two in my family that started out but quickly burned out and moved on. My MIL retired after 30+ years in a public system. The shite she had to deal with was crazy
Posted on 7/29/20 at 12:55 pm to greygoose
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No shite! PE teachers and elementary teachers are a dime a dozen, and I think we all know why that is. PE teacher, who has his "class" watch Disney movies because it's too hot to go outside, (this actually happened to my daughter in Kindergarten) makes the same as the teacher who teaches algebra and geometry
All you’ve done with your anecdotes is reveal that the education system in your district is God-awful.
Posted on 7/29/20 at 12:55 pm to TexasTiger08
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TexasTiger08
I'm in the medical profession, so yep, I know a ton of doctors too.
The people I choose to associate with, are not low IQ. In fact, highly intelligent.
Have I tried teaching? Well, sort of. I was a volunteer at an elementary school. I tutored a classroom of 8 kids in math that needed help. To my credit, their test scores improved dramatically.
Why do you say this is jumping the rails? Teachers haven't worked since March, now most, according to the recent survey, and my personal experience, do not want to go back to work this Fall. I imagine that number would drop like a rock, if their pay was at risk. Do you think the stock boy, or cashier at Wal-Mart would choose to come to work, if they had to choice to sit at home and still be paid?
Posted on 7/29/20 at 12:59 pm to TexasTiger08
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All you’ve done with your anecdotes is reveal that the education system in your district is God-awful.
Truth be told, it isn't very good where I live. That's why there is a very large amount of private schools here. When I pulled my daughter out of public school and into private, I was amazed at how many students at the private school, had parents who were public school teachers. Hmmmm... wonder why that is?
Posted on 7/29/20 at 1:03 pm to LNCHBOX
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Well then the non-working teachers can collect unemployment like you.
Teachers shouldnt even be eligible for unemployment
They never paid into the system in the first place
If your income is taxpayer money giving a little bit of it back is just taking less taxpayer money.
Teacher pay should count as 0$ earned toward unemployment.
Posted on 7/29/20 at 1:04 pm to greygoose
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Have I tried teaching? Well, sort of. I was a volunteer at an elementary school. I tutored a classroom of 8 kids in math that needed help. To my credit, their test scores improved dramatically.
I would expect nothing less quote:
Why do you say this is jumping the rails? Teachers haven't worked since March, now most, according to the recent survey, and my personal experience, do not want to go back to work this Fall.
I’ve pointed this out in previous threads, but I’ll share it here. I’ve been home since March. In that time, I’ve created lessons for students online. I’ve used programs designed for classroom management and have had to completely shift gears and turn them into my main form of communication with students.
My class does not involve much written work. I’ve had zoom sessions throughout the spring and summer. I’ve given free music lessons to my students over the summer. I still went up to the school and coordinated instrument pickup and drop off days. Why did they drop them off for a month and a half? It’s because I took them to get professionally cleaned in light of these current events.
We are also hosting a summer music camp for a marching season we may or may not have. This is all done virtually. The only reason I am able to respond frequently now is because we are doing 2 a days.
Posted on 7/29/20 at 1:11 pm to TexasTiger08
Yea there is a teacher shortage and why I guess some teachers don’t want to go back . It’s because a large portion of society suck at the whole parenting thing
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