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re: 41% of college students believe hate speech should NOT be protected by the constitution

Posted on 6/1/19 at 6:45 pm to
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 6/1/19 at 6:45 pm to
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Democrat primary sponsor.



Plenty of conservative Democrats in the south.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
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Posted on 6/1/19 at 6:45 pm to
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So you have no issues with protesters blocking you from getting home from work on a public road?



As long as the protest is related to that area of land, no I don’t have any issue with it
This post was edited on 6/1/19 at 6:46 pm
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 6/1/19 at 6:45 pm to
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Unlike many of you I’m not a shill for my political sports team

I'm not even really a Republican but do tend to vote for them over Dems most of the time
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 6/1/19 at 6:46 pm to
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Except I didn’t answer it


Indeed.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44173 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 6:46 pm to
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As long as the protest is related to that area of land, no I don’t have any issue with it


bullshite.

And when emergency vehicles are blocked as well? Because that has happened.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 6/1/19 at 6:49 pm to
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bullshite.


Oh okay. So you know what I believe better that I do?

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And when emergency vehicles are blocked as well? Because that has happened.


Police can obviously monitor and enforce allowing emergency vehicles through. Is this really all you have left to argue?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 6/1/19 at 6:50 pm to
Nah.

Why are protester's rights to protest more important than my right to use a public highway?

Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 6/1/19 at 6:52 pm to
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Police can obviously monitor and enforce allowing emergency vehicles through.


Ah yes, if I'm in an ambulance with a major medical emergency when seconds count, I'm totally cool with having to wait until the police show up to force the protesters to let my ambulance through.

Do you even consider the stupid shite you type?

Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 6/1/19 at 6:52 pm to
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Why are protester's rights to protest more important than my right to use a public highway?



Why do you only care about the first amendment when conservatives are affected?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
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Posted on 6/1/19 at 6:52 pm to
Answer the question.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 6/1/19 at 6:54 pm to
This is from the ACLU, in relation to when and where protests are applicable.

The main issue is the obtaining of a permit.
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If organizers have not obtained a permit, where can a march take place? If marchers stay on the sidewalks and obey traffic and pedestrian signals, their activity is constitutionally protected even without a permit. Marchers may be required to allow enough space on the sidewalk for normal pedestrian traffic and may not maliciously obstruct or detain passers-by.


LINK

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You don’t need a permit to march in the streets or on sidewalks, as long as marchers don’t obstruct car or pedestrian traffic. If you don’t have a permit, police officers can ask you to move to the side of a street or sidewalk to let others pass or for safety reasons.
Again, you don’t have the right to obstruct traffic merely because it is a publicly funded “street”.

There are restrictions, as noted by the ACLU.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44173 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 6:55 pm to
I mean it's just common sense.

"your rights end where mine begin"

You have a right to protest. You do not have a right to protest in such a way as you impede my right to utilize a public highway.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
87983 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 6:55 pm to
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Ah yes, if I'm in an ambulance with a major medical emergency when seconds count, I'm totally cool with having to wait until the police show up to force the protesters to let my ambulance through.


Oh okay, so because there may be an emergency vehicle coming brought at some point, then we must outlaw all protests on public streets even though those areas are part of the public forum doctrine?

Do you even consider the stupid shite you type?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76536 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 6:55 pm to
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Plenty of conservative Democrats in the south.


This bill is primarily sponsored by a Democrat.

Your political party is primarily at fault for this.

Thanks, DS.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44173 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 6:56 pm to
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hen we must outlaw all protests on public streets


If they are impeding traffic, yes.

You do not have a right to block me from utilizing a public street.

Why is this so hard for you to grasp?
This post was edited on 6/1/19 at 7:03 pm
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 6/1/19 at 6:56 pm to
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There are restrictions, as noted by the ACLU


/convo
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Member since Oct 2008
87983 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 6:57 pm to
And like I’ve pointed out, It’s different in the protest in question is related to the land itself. Those are general protesting guidelines. Yeah if I want to protest F King Alexander in the middle of Highland Road that’s not going to fly.
This post was edited on 6/1/19 at 7:02 pm
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 6/1/19 at 6:58 pm to
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Your political party is primarily at fault for this.


Just really hammers home how little you know about me
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Member since Feb 2018
53052 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 7:00 pm to
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Plenty of conservative Democrats in the south

Maybe 40 years ago. Not really anymore
This post was edited on 6/1/19 at 7:00 pm
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
87983 posts
Posted on 6/1/19 at 7:00 pm to
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Maybe 40 years ago. Not really anymore



A Democrat governor just signed one of the most restrictive anti-abortion laws in the country
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