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re: 4 killed in Shooting at Naval Reserve center in Chattanooga (Shooter dead)

Posted on 7/17/15 at 8:50 am to
Posted by QuiteTheConundrum
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 7/17/15 at 8:50 am to
Hey idiot, his father was on a terrorist watch list a few years back, and was stopped while traveling in a foreign nation. Removed his name from watch list. and now his son goes off the rails...All while living in that fancy house, driving a new car, smiling with his American college degree.

Islam and muslims here are a scourge, sorry that hurts little feelings. They do not belong. I say the first one we run off is the one in the White House


Our "national security agency" even got a call from Russian authorities about the Tsarnaev kids a while before the Boston bombings and did nothing. But they were just here living the American dream , nice quiet peaceful kids.
This post was edited on 7/17/15 at 8:52 am
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
65447 posts
Posted on 7/17/15 at 8:52 am to
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I'm guessing you interact with zero Muslims.
I used to live down the street from a fairly famous mosque in Falls Church, VA, and I lived in an apartment building where I was a small minority among many muslims and-
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they are either radicalized themselves, sympathize, empathize, or are too much of a coward to stand up for what they say they believe
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40140 posts
Posted on 7/17/15 at 8:58 am to
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I used to live down the street from a fairly famous mosque in Falls Church, VA, and I lived in an apartment building where I was a small minority among many muslims

Welp... That settles that.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87366 posts
Posted on 7/17/15 at 9:02 am to
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He covered pretty much all of the bases. Seems that someone should have had an inkling he was gonna go all religion of peace on someone. Maybe not though.



Imagine you're a moderate, but diligent, 22 year old Muslim. You go to mosque and involve yourself in Islamic community groups. I'm sure you can imagine the predicament of trying to distinguish the devout Muslims who are no threat from the truly radicalized that may go lone wolf someday.

I don't think TPers are a significant security threat. But, we know there are some right wing crazies out there. As a conservative, I can go to the Poli Board and see a bunch of people frothing at the mouth, talking about the traitorous administration and suggesting we need dire measures. I don't think anyone over there is going to do anything stupid.

Similarly, it's not terroristic for a devout Muslim to talk about his disagreement with US foreign policy, or express anger. I'm sure that's common. So what standard can we fairly apply to them?
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87366 posts
Posted on 7/17/15 at 9:03 am to
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Islam and muslims here are a scourge, sorry that hurts little feelings. They do not belong. I say the first one we run off is the one in the White House



Ok, so you're just stupid. Got it. I like it when people insert stuff like this so I know who the fricking nuts are.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87366 posts
Posted on 7/17/15 at 9:08 am to
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I used to live down the street from a fairly famous mosque in Falls Church, VA, and I lived in an apartment building where I was a small minority among many muslims and-
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they are either radicalized themselves, sympathize, empathize, or are too much of a coward to stand up for what they say they believe



So you're willfully ignorant, yeah? I hate shite like this. I was reading Robert Spencer and Walid Phares way before it was cool. I'm sure half of you folks think I'm a CAIR member because I'm not furious at every Muslim.

I think Islam is the greatest threat to world security. But millions and millions of Muslims want the same shite you and I want, to live in their homes and raise their kids safely, and have their kids go to college and have their own families. That's what the majority of Muslims want. And the huge majority of people talking about Muslims not caring haven't seen the dismay of normal Muslim people after an event like this (it does exist). They don't want to know what the actual reactions are, they want to stay mad and broadly label all Muslims as a threat.
Posted by QuiteTheConundrum
Member since Dec 2013
1140 posts
Posted on 7/17/15 at 9:10 am to
I am the nut? Every other American citizen that speaks against muslims and islam are nuts ? Wife of one of those fallen Marines begins to echo what I just said, is she a nut too now ?

The nut jobs are the MUSLIMS that continue to pull operations against us. The nuts are people like you who apologize for them, the "peaceful" ones who say nothing, Obama who calls Fort Hood "work place violence" and the nuts are the people like the Iranians who just took us for a ride on a "deal" while screaming Death To America.
This post was edited on 7/17/15 at 9:11 am
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87366 posts
Posted on 7/17/15 at 9:12 am to
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I am the nut? Every other American citizen are nuts ? Wife of one of those fallen Marines begins to echo what I just said, is she a nut too now ?



No, I'm sure she's emotional and angry, just like anyone would be. I'd probably lash out against any group I could in such a situation.

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The nut job is the MUSLIMS that continue to pull operations against us. The nuts are people like you who apologize for them, the "peaceful" ones who say nothing, Obama who calls Fort Hood "work place violence" and the nuts are the people like the Iranians who just took us for a ride on a "deal" while screaming Death To America.



I don't apologize for them you idiot. You can't distinguish between someone not being moronically obtuse like you are and apologizing. Obama is a moron, but bringing him into this topic makes no sense.
Posted by QuiteTheConundrum
Member since Dec 2013
1140 posts
Posted on 7/17/15 at 9:12 am to
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But millions and millions of Muslims want the same shite you and I want, to live in their homes and raise their kids safely, and have their kids go to college and have their own families. That's what the majority of Muslims want.


Yeah that nice house, new car, and college degree! Living the American dream then boom. Apologist.

Obama belongs perfectly in the conversation. He enables it. Roof immediately a racist (yea he was) but this guy just a lone gunman. Fort Hood , just a little work place violence.

I am not getting banned so I won't go any further.
This post was edited on 7/17/15 at 9:14 am
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40140 posts
Posted on 7/17/15 at 9:13 am to
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I am the nut?

Yes
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Every other American citizen that speaks against muslims and islam are nuts ?

Yes
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Wife of one of those fallen Marines begins to echo what I just said, is she a nut too now ?

Yes, but it's way, way more excusable.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87366 posts
Posted on 7/17/15 at 9:13 am to
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Yeah that nice house, new car, and college degree! Living the American dream then boom. Apologist.



Haha you're certifiable.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87366 posts
Posted on 7/17/15 at 9:17 am to
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Obama belongs perfectly in the conversation. He enables it. Roof immediately a racist (yea he was) but this guy just a lone gunman. Fort Hood , just a little work place violence.

I am not getting banned so I won't go any further.


I just don't see how it has any practical impact. I do think Obama's reluctance on Fort Hood, and if he declines to relate this to Islamic extremism once it is confirmed, is ridiculous.

But Obama isn't the one feeding these kids radical theology through the internet. He's a douche, but I'm not going to go to lengths to connect him to an act of terrorism.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40140 posts
Posted on 7/17/15 at 9:19 am to
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I am not getting banned so I won't go any further.


I love this line. What a pussy.
Posted by QuiteTheConundrum
Member since Dec 2013
1140 posts
Posted on 7/17/15 at 9:22 am to
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I love this line. What a pussy.



It is a legit line breh. I am sure every big time sticky, from the Brown shootings, to Roof murders, to Trayvon, and Boston had multiple bannings.

Everyone is so afraid of making Islam and their followers feel bad and a pariah. While they sit in their mosques and hear radical speeches from their Imams. Live quietly in a little town called Chattanooga. Until they attack. Then everyone that knows them is shocked and just oh so surprised.

When I heard Mohammad Youssef Abdulazeez, I was not shocked a single bit.


It was fine for everyone to jump up and call Roof a racist, which he was, and start a rally against history across this country. Outrage starts up after just another workplace violence occurs, well we can't group all muslims together. They are nice people It is a double standard.

Muslims appreciate that you are so nice to them. Just lets them keep smiling at you while they shake your hand and call Ahlu Akbar or whatever it is.
This post was edited on 7/17/15 at 9:25 am
Posted by mulletproof
Shambala
Member since Apr 2013
4738 posts
Posted on 7/17/15 at 9:24 am to
Nope fogger, I don't. If I did have a lot of contact with Muslims, though, I would have typed that same stuff you just read, with probably a couple of gentler bases reserved for nonpracticing and very secular types.

Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40140 posts
Posted on 7/17/15 at 9:25 am to
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It is a legit line breh. I am sure every big time sticky, from the Brown shootings, to Roof murders, to Trayvon, and Boston had multiple bannings.

OK? You're still a pussy. Say what you think. Looks like you're part of OBUMMER's PC thought police.
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While they sit in their mosques and hear radical speeches from their Imams.

I'm sure you've been to oodles of Muslim services.
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When I heard Mohammad Youssef Abdulazeez, I was not shocked a single bit.


Since there are so many mass shootings in America perpetrated by Muslims, right? Another day, another Muslim shoots up whitey!
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87366 posts
Posted on 7/17/15 at 9:27 am to
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It was fine for everyone to jump up and call Roof a racist, which he was, and start a rally against history across this country. Outrage starts up after just another workplace violence occurs, well we can't group all muslims together. They are nice people It is a double standard.



So you want to further a double standard you acknowledge is shitty?
Posted by QuiteTheConundrum
Member since Dec 2013
1140 posts
Posted on 7/17/15 at 9:30 am to
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So you want to further a double standard you acknowledge is shitty?



No I want the people that are so militant about leftist or sjw causes to stop being bitches when the other side gets a turn to raise their hell. Maybe if everyone could say what they wanted without being censored..
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40140 posts
Posted on 7/17/15 at 9:32 am to
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No I want the people that are so militant about leftist or sjw causes to stop being bitches when the other side gets a turn to raise their hell.

Yikes
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87366 posts
Posted on 7/17/15 at 9:35 am to
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No I want the people that are so militant about leftist or sjw causes to stop being bitches when the other side gets a turn to raise their hell. Maybe if everyone could say what they wanted without being censored..



I understand the impulse to give it back to them, but my preference would be that our side and theirs react rationally when shite like this happens.

Islam is a threat, it's a big threat, we need to be vigilant.

White supremacy is a threat, it's a small threat practiced by very few, but we'll still be vigilant.

Black street violence is a threat, it's the most significant criminal threat in the United States, it's not an excuse for racism, but it must be addressed.
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