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re: 38,000 americans died in France....
Posted on 6/6/18 at 1:46 pm to Darth_Vader
Posted on 6/6/18 at 1:46 pm to Darth_Vader
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We were told to expect “heavy” casualties. I remember our platoon Sgt telling us right before we set out “the good news is a tanker’s death is usually instant. The bad news is you’ll find out jsut how instant in just a few hours”.
Jesus. That's something you can never forget.
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Posted on 6/6/18 at 1:51 pm to upgrayedd
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Jesus. That's something you can never forget.
I was a 12B10 as an enlisted soldier (combat engineer). We were told repeatedly, that our average life expectancy on the battlefield was like 6 minutes and change, so "Make good use of them."
Posted on 6/6/18 at 2:00 pm to Ace Midnight
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I was a 12B10 as an enlisted soldier (combat engineer). We were told repeatedly, that our average life expectancy on the battlefield was like 6 minutes and change, so "Make good use of them."
I remember my first duty station in Germany was in Fulda with the 11th ACR. One of the first things they told us was the “combat life expectancy” of a soldier in the Fulda Gap was something like 24 seconds. It was a running joke with us to ask why the hell were we constantly training if we were just going to have to fight for 24 seconds.
Posted on 6/6/18 at 2:01 pm to Ace Midnight
That has to be a sobering experience.
Posted on 6/6/18 at 2:10 pm to upgrayedd
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That has to be a sobering experience.
Meh. It was liberating. I came in sort of at the end of the "Real Army" - we still had a few Vietnam and Korean era vets hanging around. I was in a male-only MOS at the time. Basic Training wasn't like a tough vocational school program (no offense, younger vets - it is what it is), it had an intensity that was similar to what our "big war" predecessors experienced.
And accepting that fact, "I'm going to die, so I might as well do a good job until that happens" is the key to functioning well under fire. I'm not sure that ethos is fully communicated to the younger folks or even if they believe it necessary. And, frankly, with the increasing automation of warfare maybe it isn't now.
But it certainly was in preparation to fight the Soviets. I'm old as hell, baws.
Posted on 6/6/18 at 2:21 pm to Ace Midnight
Yeah, I guess I can see how it would be. I suppose it's hard for someone to understand unless they've been there.
Posted on 6/6/18 at 2:22 pm to Big Scrub TX
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I didn't say the Russians were good guys. I insinuated that WWII would not have been won without them. And it wouldn't have. There's a reason for the whole "Uncle Joe" thing.
They certainly put the most bodies out there, but without logistics supplied by the US, they would've been pretty ineffective.
Posted on 6/6/18 at 4:27 pm to Picayuner
If you've never seen this site/video about the deaths in World War 2, take a look. It's both enlightening and sobering.
~70 million dead.. These numbers are just mind boggling in today's world and would make more sense in a horror movie.
It's crazy how many Russian military deaths there were.
https://www.fallen.io/ww2/
~70 million dead.. These numbers are just mind boggling in today's world and would make more sense in a horror movie.
It's crazy how many Russian military deaths there were.
https://www.fallen.io/ww2/
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