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30 years ago today, UAL Flight 232
Posted on 7/19/19 at 5:35 pm
Posted on 7/19/19 at 5:35 pm
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The DC-10 was bound for Chicago when the tail engine exploded. Shrapnel from the blast shredded hydraulic lines. The pilots lost all flight controls. The odds of such a failure were one in a billion. The odds of survival were even worse. But an unprecedented show of skill and ingenuity by the pilots combined with a magnificently coordinated response by an army of rescue workers on the ground saved 184 of the 296 people aboard the flight.
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Flight 232 took off from Denver bound for Chicago at 2:09 p.m., July 19, 1989. At 3:16 p.m., some 37,000 feet over Alta, Iowa, the tail engine exploded. A microscopic flaw in an engine part, investigators later discovered, caused it to fail. Debris severed hydraulic lines. The fluid leaked out in about two seconds.
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Capt. Alfred C. "Al" Haynes struggled to fly a plane without flight controls. The crippled plane began to turn steeply. It was in danger of turning upside down, which would have resulted in an immediate crash. Haynes, First Officer William Records and Second Officer Dudley Dvorak eventually gained control of the aircraft. By adjusting the thrust to the two remaining engines — one on each wing — they could stabilize the plane. Haynes would bring one engine to idle and push the other to full throttle. The result was a crude type of steering.
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The cockpit voice recorder captured the pilots as they neared Sioux City Gateway Airport. Haynes retained his sense of humor.
The air traffic control cleared United 232 for any runway.
Haynes laughed and replied, "You want to be particular and make it a runway, huh?"
But the situation was grim, and he knew it.
"Whatever you do," Haynes said on the recording, "keep us away from the city."
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Posted on 7/19/19 at 5:55 pm to Jim Rockford
I’ve seen the documentary on that on the tv. Now THAT was an impressive piece of airmanship.
Kinda makes Sully look like plèbe to be honest.
Kinda makes Sully look like plèbe to be honest.
This post was edited on 7/19/19 at 5:56 pm
Posted on 7/19/19 at 5:59 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
I knew Al Haynes, a good man, one of my best friends flew his retirement flight with him from HNL-ORD, RIP
Posted on 7/19/19 at 6:00 pm to Jim Rockford
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Records:"Close 'em off."
Haynes: "Left turn. Close 'em off."
Records: "Pull 'em off"
Haynes: "Left turn, left turn, close the throttles." Fitch: "Nah, I can't pull 'em off or we'll lose it, that's what's turning ya."
Haynes: "Okay."
Fitch: "Left Al!"
Haynes: "Left turn! Left, left, left, left, left, left, left, left, left, left!"
Ground Proximity Warning System (GPWS): "Whoop whoop pull up. Whoop whoop pull up. Whoop whoop pull up."
Haynes: "Everybody stay in brace!"
GPWS: "Whoop whoop pull up."
Haynes: "God!" [Sound of impact, end of recording]
Reading CVR transcripts of plane crashes always make me damn near hyperventilate.
This post was edited on 7/19/19 at 6:02 pm
Posted on 7/19/19 at 6:03 pm to Soup Sammich
they had an unflyable jet, with a crash that should have had no survivors, and managed to save something like 175 from death, the cockpit separated and balled up into an unrecognizable piece, four pilots in the wreckage, the searchers were giving up for the night and leaving, they all started shouting until they were found and untangled from the heap
Posted on 7/19/19 at 6:08 pm to Jim Rockford
That damn DC-10. I flew to Hawaii 5 days after the AA191 crash at O'Hare in 1979. I was young and scared to death 
the days leading up to the flight. We took off out of DFW and returned 9 days later on the DC-10.
Read the passenger list and stories of the families, it's very interesting and heartbreaking at the same time.
I've flown many times since then, but it is always on my mind every time I fly !
the days leading up to the flight. We took off out of DFW and returned 9 days later on the DC-10. Read the passenger list and stories of the families, it's very interesting and heartbreaking at the same time.
I've flown many times since then, but it is always on my mind every time I fly !
Posted on 7/19/19 at 6:12 pm to 777Tiger
quote:When did he pass? He was still calling little league games around here a couple years ago.
I knew Al Haynes, a good man, one of my best friends flew his retirement flight with him from HNL-ORD, RIP
Posted on 7/19/19 at 6:13 pm to 91TIGER
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the AA191 crash at O'Hare in 1979
DC-10 at the time had many design flaws, after three total hull losses from essentially the same problem they got that and a lot of other kinks worked out, ironically, the crew of AA191 reacted in 100% accordance with non-normal procedures but didn't realize the engine had separated and ripped out three hydraulic systems causing the slats on the left wing to retract, the wing stalled and that's how you have the pic in your post, they had no chance
Posted on 7/19/19 at 6:15 pm to Jim Rockford
Don't forget Dennis Fitch. He was a training pilot who happened to be on the flight. He was a definite contributor.
Posted on 7/19/19 at 6:16 pm to northshorebamaman
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When did he pass?
actually I think it was Fitch that passed, Al may still be with us, I do know he was big into the refereeing, got to be moving slow by now
This post was edited on 7/19/19 at 6:17 pm
Posted on 7/19/19 at 6:19 pm to 777Tiger
quote:Yeah, he moved up into the booth years ago.
I do know he was big into the refereeing, got to be moving slow by now
Posted on 7/19/19 at 6:19 pm to northshorebamaman
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Yeah, he moved up into the booth years ago.
you in Seattle?
Posted on 7/19/19 at 6:20 pm to 777Tiger
Fitch died in 2012 from brain cancer.
Posted on 7/19/19 at 6:20 pm to 777Tiger
Tacoma. He lives down this way.
Posted on 7/19/19 at 6:21 pm to Jim Rockford
Was the Sioux City crash the one that cartwheeled down the runway and scattered the survivors in the surrounding cornfields?
Posted on 7/19/19 at 6:21 pm to northshorebamaman
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Tacoma. He lives down this way.
coming out that way next week, looking forward to a break from this heat
Posted on 7/19/19 at 6:23 pm to 777Tiger
quote:It will be hot by our standards. Mid 80's.
coming out that way next week, looking forward to a break from this heat
Posted on 7/19/19 at 6:25 pm to northshorebamaman
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Mid 80's.
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brutal, trip cancelled!!
actually going up Whitby and then Comox, but coming back to SEA for a wedding in SeptemberPosted on 7/19/19 at 6:26 pm to 777Tiger
I’m gonna see if I can find the documentary tonight.
Posted on 7/19/19 at 6:28 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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I’m gonna see if I can find the documentary tonight.
it's on you tube, I liked Haynes last transmission, controller: United 232 you are cleared to land any runway, Haynes: (laughs) oh, you want tot get specific and make it a runway?
ETA: getting ready to go back, baw?
This post was edited on 7/19/19 at 6:29 pm
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