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re: 20 year old LA girl charged with beating a 46 year brain surgery survivor to death

Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:32 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295687 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:32 pm to
quote:

Except for small isolated pockets LA is overrun with them.


Louisianians in general are very cliquish (regardless of where they live) and very negative. Hate for the other guy is a spectator sport in every city and social group.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:35 pm to
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Have to think the brain surgery detail will play a part in lessening that charge.





Um... what?
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28202 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:37 pm to
quote:

Any competent attorney is going to argue that the man's pre-existing medical condition played a part in his death.


On the civil side you take the plaintiff as you find him, preexisting conditions and all. My guess is it could go to mitigation but she absolutely could get convicted of 2nd degree depending on the facts.
Posted by CohibaLady76
Member since Dec 2017
178 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:41 pm to
quote:

At least she's fine enough to get plenty oral in prison


More like giving plenty of oral in prison, she will get used to that dark crack. She will be somebody's fine little bitch and pretty deserving of it if you ask me.

It's ashame people have to mind their own business no matter what for fear of these kinds of things happening. There just isn't any respect in general anymore. When I got caught and yelled at for being an idiot by someone, I stopped and accepted the fact they were right...now its like "oh no you didn't" and all hell breaks out. Sad.
Posted by VernonPLSUfan
Leesville, La.
Member since Sep 2007
17551 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:47 pm to
So they only beat him over the head to give him a headache for telling them not to litter. I guess he should of told the trio he had a pre existing illness, brain tumor, and please only break my nose or something else so I don't die over it. This is why I cannot stand how the law works. Probably only one will get life, the other two 5 years. Because the lawyer will argue which blow actually killed the guy. Dindu nuffins.
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
70585 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:47 pm to
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My guess is it could go to mitigation but she absolutely could get convicted of 2nd degree depending on the facts.


And she could walk free if the DA goes that route, no? My guess is the charge is trumped up to get her to plead to the lesser manslaughter charge without having to go to trial. Without knowing the specific details of the incident as yet, it's likely going to be difficult to prove she intended to cause the man's death. That's where his pre-existing condition works against the second degree charge.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
37718 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:48 pm to
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Moral of the story is mind your own business



well you certainly sound like a pussy.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28202 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:52 pm to
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And she could walk free if the DA goes that route


Mitigation meaning she gets convicted then they look at his condition prior to sentencing.

Need a criminal guy to tell us but I dont think she gets a break because of his condition.

Posted by VernonPLSUfan
Leesville, La.
Member since Sep 2007
17551 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:53 pm to
Moral of the story is to pack some heat when encountering pos like this.
Posted by CorkSoaker
Member since Oct 2008
9823 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:53 pm to
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If you actually think her intent was to kill the guy, then I'd ask you the same question.


What do you think her intent was? Something rational? Because she seems like a real rational broad, right?
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
18836 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:56 pm to
quote:

it's likely going to be difficult to prove she intended to cause the man's death


All she needed was intent to do great bodily harm, a good prosecutor wouldn't have a problem arguing that.
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
70585 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:57 pm to
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What do you think her intent was? Something rational? Because she seems like a real rational broad, right?


Irrational doesn't necessarily equal murderous, which is why you have charges such as manslaughter.

Looking at the LA statute, second degree murder seems reserved for instances of premeditation and/or additional aggravating circumstances (drug deal, robbery, etc.) that placed a person in a likely position to commit murder.

She probably meant to harm the guy, but I doubt she intended to kill him on that day.

That's not trying to defend the girl's actions. I'm just explaining why I don't think she'll get second degree murder in the eyes of the law.
Posted by TigerNlc
Chocolate City
Member since Jun 2006
33096 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:57 pm to
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Probably only one will get life, the other two 5 years.

She will probably get off somewhat easy. Alphonso character will get the longer sentence and other guy is only charged with one count disturbing the peace.
Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
124694 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:59 pm to
Not sure which is worse. The littering or killing the man.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83090 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 1:00 pm to
She should get life in prison for the murder and death by ooga booga for the littering.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
18836 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

She probably meant to harm the guy


Reread the statute, that is all the intent she needs for second degree murder
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
70585 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 1:04 pm to
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Reread the statute


Intent to cause great bodily harm. BTW, the manslaughter statute has similar wording.

The DA is going to have an uphill battle if he's planning to charge a chick chilling on a river one minute and then knocking a guy over the head with a bottle during a sudden argument the next minute with second degree.
This post was edited on 6/12/18 at 1:05 pm
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
92406 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 1:04 pm to
quote:

Moral of the story is mind your own business


frick off
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 1:07 pm to
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This is why getting in fights is never a good idea. shite like this can happen. Just like the high school senior from Brother Martin (I think?) who punched the dude on Bourbon Street. Bad enough.. until the dude falls and hits his head on the curb and dies. Then you're on the hook for murder.


Yep.

We got in fights in high school every once in a while and we're all very lucky nothing serious ever happened.

Posted by cajunbuck
R-KANSAS
Member since Sep 2017
997 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 1:08 pm to
I'm pretty sure she face some sort of charge just for hanging out with trash like those cats..... are people really this frickin stupid?
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