re: 17 Deplorable Examples of White Privilege

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You're clearly not grasping what a privilege is.

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I understand what a privilege is. And the idiocy of assuming that ALL PEOPLE are treated a certain way because they are white is simply racist. The same goes if they are black.

You assume because of a story from a white father with a black kid is indicative of ALL BLACK PEOPLE AND ALL COPS. That is small minded.

White privilege is a way lazy people generalize and stereotype. That's all this so called "white privilege" is. It is something created by the left, to gin up racial angst, in order to secure more votes for democrats. Funny how "white privilege" only is now an issue with a black president. Tell me, we have a black president now. Why didn't "white privilege" stop him from becoming president? How did "white privilege" make Lebron a multi-millionaire? How did Ben Carson become the head of Johns Hopkins. I guess these must be examples of black privilege.

I haven't used a single absolute in this entire thread.

It's anecdote from someone -highly educated, mind you- with up close, personal and intimate knowledge of both sides of the story.

You are an ideologue.

FYI - there are 158,000 black males age 14-24 living in NYC. In 2011, NYPD stopped and frisked 168,000 black males age 14-24.

See page two for data highlights

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The embellishment of details here was done to garner another level of sentiment that should not be applied to situation in discussion.

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What embellishment?

He is trying to illustrate that his son is a white collared black guy.

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If forcing citizens to lie face down on the sidewalk was SOP by the NYPD for every officer surely this would have been publicized. So if it is not SOP why must the reason be that the citizen was black? Why was that action assumed to be racially motivated? Why is it not a possibility that the particular officer involved was just a poor representation of a LEO in NY?

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Considering the data I have posted, this seems absurdly implausible.

There are thousands of stories just like this. All you have to do is read them.

How many thousands do you think?

Just because he was black?

Was there no other justification given for stopping, frisking, or using force?

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You ever been pulled over twice in a year. Maybe even three times? My fricking god.

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yep and never had a problem


BTW the reason I asked the above questions:

Because you see from your data only 22% of blacks stopped were subjected to force. And of those being forced to lie on the ground was only used as a force method 1.3 % of the time. So....the young man represented in the story suffered a fate that the other 92.4% of blacks stopped did not suffer.


"well, lets be honest about it" lying on the ground was clearly motivated "because of the color of his skin"



Statistics are bitch, huh?

You clearly did not read the opinion piece, or the two competing articles that prompted it that were linked inside the story.

All you ideologues do is move the goalposts. That opinion piece wasn't supposed to support my entire position, it is supposed to be an illustrative perspective of how education and accomplishment are not driving this.

Considering 90% of the blacks and Latinos stopped were let go and uncharged, I would say 22% being subjected to force is pretty alarming.

Here is some info from the police that conduct these investigations.

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Officer Adhyl Polanco began his testimony Tuesday by saying "there's a difference between" the department's policies on paper and "what goes on out there", on the city's streets.

Polanco testified that in 2009, officers in his Bronx precinct were expected to issue 20 summons and make one arrest per month. If they did not they would risk denied vacation, being separated from longtime partners, undesirable assignments and other consequences.

Polcano claimed it was not uncommon for patrol officers who were not making quotas to be forced to "drive the sergeant" or "drive the supervisor", which meant driving around with a senior officer who would find individuals for the patrol officer to arrest or issue a summons to, at times for infractions the junior officer did not observe.

"We were handcuffing kids for no reason," Polanco said. Claiming he was increasingly disturbed by what he was witnessing in his precinct, Polcanco began secretly recording his roll call meetings.

In one recording played for the court, a man Polanco claimed was a NYPD captain told officers: "the summons is a money–generating machine for the city."

Bronx police officer Pedro Serrano also secretly recorded comments made by supervisors at the same Bronx precinct. His recordings were also played for the court this week.

On a track played Thursday, Deputy Inspector Christopher McCormack was heard telling Serrano he needed to stop "the right people, the right time, the right location". When asked what he believed McCormack meant Serrano told the court: "he meant blacks and Hispanics."

Later in the tape McCormack says: "I have no problem telling you this … male blacks. And I told you at roll call, and I have no problem [to] tell you this, male blacks 14 to 21."

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I refuted one poorly written piece. A simple statement that a white mans black son was stopped and made to lie face down on the dirty sidewalk just because he is black.


The author has no justification for that. In fact the articles you posted and I read and applied show that this man's son was subjected to lying on the ground (if it even occurred in this instance) for some reason other than being black.

92.4% of blacks stopped were not forced to lie on the ground so this was an anomalous case.

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White Privilege

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And here is why racism will never die...Sorry, but I refuse to apologize or defend myself because I'm white.



Deal with it

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And here is why racism will never die...Sorry, but I refuse to apologize or defend myself because I'm white.

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I don't think anyone is asking you to apologize for or defend your anything, since you've done nothing wrong.

They're asking you to realize that because you're white, you don't have to deal with the same circumstances day-to-day.