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With DA at the helm, they are a avg to lower avg team

Posted on 9/30/24 at 8:34 am
Posted by bleedpurpleandgold23
Member since Jun 2023
373 posts
Posted on 9/30/24 at 8:34 am
It’s the same excuse they have been saying for the last three years, we have to coach them better. Can’t turn the ball over. It’s the same thing year after year. He chose this personnel! GTF out of New Orleans with your man titties!
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7925 posts
Posted on 9/30/24 at 11:22 am to
do tell what about yesterdays loss was on the coach?

I'm not a DA fan at all but fumbling a kickoff. Throwing a pick six. 30 yard pass interference. none of that is coaching but all on the players.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
25106 posts
Posted on 9/30/24 at 11:32 am to
Shaheed, Adebo and Howden are the reason we’re 2-2 dumbass
Posted by FredbullTN
Houston
Member since Sep 2023
5697 posts
Posted on 9/30/24 at 11:47 am to
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but fumbling a kickoff


If we are being technical then technically it was a muffed punt that was fielded at our own 2 yard line. High school mistake that would likely get you benched. Needs to be coached up better. Well coached teams don’t consistently figure out ways to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory.

I kind of get where the OP is going with all this. It’s the little things that DA coached teams never seem to master. Also, outside of the first two games the margin of victory is typically so small in the NFL, and DA just never seems to make the right in game decisions. At some point his shitty record is a Dennis Allen problem.

But we still have a chance this year and I think we will get it turned around. Let’s get healthy and see what we can do. Running DA out of town during the season won’t do any good.
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7925 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 11:16 am to
Oh I wasn't lobbying for DA. He had most of the blame in the Eagles loss. but this game was more dumb player mistakes than any coaching blunders was what I was getting at.
Posted by fwtex
Member since Nov 2019
3458 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 4:22 pm to
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outside of the first two games the margin of victory is typically so small in the NFL, and DA just never seems to make the right in game decisions.


Do you have specific examples of bad decisions that if he chose the opposite decision the results would have been a win? I can only think of one decision that I would say was a reach and did not work, that would be kicking the early fg against the eagles to make it a 7-3 game.

The loss on last defensive drives is a 50/50 proposition. If he played prevent, they give up chucks of yards and still give up the game winning fg opportunity. I believe DA logic is that the defense has been playing tough all game, why change at the end.
Posted by saintslsupels
Member since Jul 2014
2492 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 5:19 pm to
We’ve lost 2 games we could have won. That tends to happen to bad coaches. You can normally tell alot about a coach based on if his teams figure out ways to win close games or not. Look at Mike Tomlin, they’ve had bad qb play since Rothlisberger retired, but still haven’t had a losing season since. Every year Dennis Allen has games that we should have won but lost. Each of the last 2 games we’ve essentially collapsed at the end of the game. You can blame players all you want but Allen has never made the playoffs despite this being year 6 of him being a head coach. Raiders were 8-8 the year before he took over, he went 8-28 before getting fired. Raiders went 7-9 and then 12-4 the two seasons after he got fired. Whenever he’s the head coach, his team under performs and lose most of the close games, then those same teams improve and start winning close the year after he gets fired.
Posted by fwtex
Member since Nov 2019
3458 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 5:55 pm to
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Whenever he’s the head coach, his team under performs and lose most of the close games, then those same teams improve and start winning close the year after he gets fired.


I would agree if all things were equal in the NFL. The reality is that the reason his record with the raisers declines is because the Raiders were broke and had to trade off all there top talent. They had less and less talent under DA. Now he enters a similar but not as bad situation with the Saints.

The first two weeks are an interesting short case study. Same DA the first two weeks when everything was clicking and the offense was moving the ball, eating clock, and scoring points. The only difference between the first two weeks and the last two weeks is the offense stopped being productive and key players have been injured. How did DA decisions stall the offense?
Posted by saintslsupels
Member since Jul 2014
2492 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 6:02 pm to
It's not that he called a bad play or is teaching bad technique. He's just a overall below average coach who can't lead a group of people to consistently win. Why is our O-line depth so bad that if falls apart when our center gets hurt? Why can't he scout better talent or coach up back ups to be more serviceable? You judge professional coaches by wins and losses, nothing else really matters. Dennis Allen has a track record of losing more than winning. You can blame the Raiders organization all you want, but Hue Jackson went 8-8 the year before they hired DA, then Del Rio went 7-9 and 12-4 the two years after. Hue Jackson is a terrible head coach and Del Rio is mid level coach at best.

Have you ever heard a player say Dennis Allen inspired them to play better? Or taught them anything that made them better? Or is great at dialing up the right play at the right time? What does Dennis Allen do well as a head coach?
Posted by paulb52
Member since Dec 2019
9047 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 6:43 am to
Has a knack for snapping out a defeat from the jaws of victory. .
Posted by tucoco
Las Vegas
Member since Mar 2021
7567 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:41 am to
This team should be 4-0 right now imo! They lost close games that they should have won and it directly reflects upon the head coach imo. A better head coach would have inspired his team to win these games. It's repeating the same stuff as last season when they lost a number of close games that they could have won. This team has good talent on it and is a playoff team with a better coach at the helm because that head coach won't stand for the bone-headed mistakes that this team is making under softy Dennis Allen.
This post was edited on 10/2/24 at 11:44 am
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
22972 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 1:08 pm to
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This team should be 4-0 right now imo! They lost close games that they should have won and it directly reflects upon the head coach imo. A better head coach would have inspired his team to win these games. It's repeating the same stuff as last season when they lost a number of close games that they could have won. This team has good talent on it and is a playoff team with a better coach at the helm because that head coach won't stand for the bone-headed mistakes that this team is making under softy Dennis Allen.


Exactly. There's also the attention to detail that all good to great coaches demand. That has always been lacking under Allen & it tends to show up most at crucial moments in games.
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