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re: So wait, we traded our 2nd this year and 1st next year?
Posted on 4/28/11 at 11:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 4/28/11 at 11:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i was hoping we'd take a late round flyer and pick up a vet in FA for cheap
Who?
Name the player.
You don't get to play the field and retroactively make these decisions. Which flyer? Which round? Which free agent?
In real life, decisions are made without perfect information as a result of hindsight.
Thomas Jones is your guy?
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Posted on 4/28/11 at 11:13 pm to moneyg
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You are misinformed.
The falcons gave up a 1, 2, and 4 this year and a 1 and 4 next year.
oh wow, guess i remembered the NFL network graphic wrong. thanks for the clarification. glad i didnt start an entire new thread on who had the better trade.
Posted on 4/28/11 at 11:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
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If we go to the NFC championship I think it would be more on the shoulders of Drew, an improved defense, and better oline play, than Ingram "taking us there
Yeah............everybody gives credit to the qb but like Gruden said, when they saints won the superbowl they had BALANCE.
Ingram gives you balance, depth, and a potential 12-15 td RB.
This post was edited on 4/28/11 at 11:15 pm
Posted on 4/28/11 at 11:14 pm to L S Usetheforce
I like ESPN just now talking about Bush's tweet saying "He didn't want to do a 1-2 tandem there", I think they meant a "1-2-3-4" tandem. We don't have OL depth right now unless we re-sign Bushrod and Strief, and if we do that we'll be limited money wise when it comes to Porter, Greer, Nicks, Moore, Colston, and Harper.
Posted on 4/28/11 at 11:15 pm to L S Usetheforce
he gonna open up his own holes? because PT had to do that on a lot of his positive runs last 2 years
Posted on 4/28/11 at 11:16 pm to SlowFlowPro
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this makes no sense
assuming the saints had the ammo to trade up to any pick after our first, 1st rounder (which we showed we did), the saints DID have the luxury of picking "the field" compared to ingram
You are having trouble grasping the point.
You can't take the field. You have to make a decision now based on a projection of who you think will be available in the 2nd, 3rd, 4th rounds etc.
What you want to do is sit back and after seeing how it all plays out, making a determination of what the Saints should have done.
Posted on 4/28/11 at 11:16 pm to THRILLHO
Thrillho............if you think the saints are keeping all those backs you are drinking heavily tonight.........
Someone is going to another team or getting cut!
Someone is going to another team or getting cut!
Posted on 4/28/11 at 11:19 pm to L S Usetheforce
My preferred draft
Cam Jordan
2nd on Austin, or Carter
3rd Ryan Williams or Murray?
Honestly how much worse is that than Jordan, Ingram and no 2nd this year or 1st next?
Cam Jordan
2nd on Austin, or Carter
3rd Ryan Williams or Murray?
Honestly how much worse is that than Jordan, Ingram and no 2nd this year or 1st next?
Posted on 4/28/11 at 11:20 pm to L S Usetheforce
I like the pick. I think Ingram will be a thousand yard rusher and will bring balance back to the offense. If we keep both Thomas and Bush we'll have a ton of options and be able to keep the guys rested.
Posted on 4/28/11 at 11:21 pm to moneyg
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Who?
Name the player.
gotta wait to see who gets cut
there will be some out there, just like there was shaun rogers to fill our need at DT
quote:
You don't get to play the field and retroactively make these decisions. Which flyer? Which round? Which free agent?
the sample is not set, so any response is impossible
Posted on 4/28/11 at 11:22 pm to L S Usetheforce
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when they saints won the superbowl they had BALANCE.
on the legs of an UFA RB
Posted on 4/28/11 at 11:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
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3rd Ryan Williams or Murray?
Ryan Williams in the 3rd........
And Demarco Murray.........great all the saints need is another injury waiting to happen.
Posted on 4/28/11 at 11:23 pm to moneyg
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You can't take the field. You have to make a decision now based on a projection of who you think will be available in the 2nd, 3rd, 4th rounds etc.
no
if the saints had the ammo to move to that spot, they had the same ammo to use to get any pick after that
how do you not understand that?
Posted on 4/28/11 at 11:23 pm to L S Usetheforce
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Someone is going to another team or getting cut!
If PT gets cut, from what I can tell it will either cost us $1.5m against the cap or straight up cost Benson $1.5m to have him never play a down. Or a full blown $4.2m either way. I can't tell if his $2.5m is a roster bonus or a guaranteed roster bonus (the latter of which we would be on the hook for, but I've never seen a guaranteed roster bonus in the first year of a deal).
If Bush gets cut, we don't have the same kind of pass catcher as he is. PT and Ingram are somewhat similar runners (Ingram is better), but PT can catch it.
Ivory will stay. He is cheap as frick and effective when healthy.
Posted on 4/28/11 at 11:23 pm to L S Usetheforce
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on the legs of an UFA RB
Right..............Reggie Bush had nothing to do with it.................GFYS dude. We had balance because we had the greatest decoy in the NFL that year who produced in the playoffs.........don't believe me..........look up reggies # of runs for 1st downs in the playoffs and his ypc.
This post was edited on 4/28/11 at 11:25 pm
Posted on 4/28/11 at 11:24 pm to L S Usetheforce
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Ryan Williams in the 3rd.
murray or helu in the 3rd
williams in the 2nd would be great value where the saints would be picking
Posted on 4/28/11 at 11:24 pm to SlowFlowPro
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if the saints had the ammo to move to that spot, they had the same ammo to use to get any pick after that
They should have taken Bowers, let him get his surgery and sit out the year if need be.
Posted on 4/28/11 at 11:24 pm to L S Usetheforce
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great all the saints need is another injury waiting to happen.
did you follow mark ingram in 2010?
Posted on 4/28/11 at 11:25 pm to L S Usetheforce
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Reggie Bush had nothing to do with it.
reggie bush and his sub 4.0 ypc was not a main cog in our rushing attack, broseph
no matter how you want to slice it, he wasn't
Posted on 4/28/11 at 11:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
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did you follow mark ingram in 2010?
Nah not at allllllll...............I just know that he had like like 700 carries and 1 injury.
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