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re: So Brees is the NFL leader in yards, TDs, comp%; is 13-3, yet isnt the MVP?
Posted on 1/1/12 at 9:18 pm to Choctaw
Posted on 1/1/12 at 9:18 pm to Choctaw
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If Rodgers had thrown as many passes as Brees he would have 6077 yds and 59 TD's and 8 INTs.
riiiiiggghhht
To quote you:
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numbers don't lie
Rodgers: 502 Att 4643 Yds: Yards per attempt is a simple formula. Y/A = X where X = YPA
4643/502=9.25
Using simple Algebra we can can find Y by multiplying X and A
Brees had 657 Att, taking Rodgers YPA (X) and multiplying it by Brees att we get 9.25*657=6077.
Rodgers: 45 TDs 502 Att TD per Att = TD/A =Z
45/502=.0897 If we take Z*A we get TD
.0897 * 657 = 58.93
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Posted on 1/1/12 at 9:19 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Rodgers: 502 Att 4643 Yds: Yards per attempt is a simple formula. Y/A = X where X = YPA
4643/502=9.25
Using simple Algebra we can can find Y by multiplying X and A
Brees had 657 Att, taking Rodgers YPA (X) and multiplying it by Brees att we get 9.25*657=6077.
Rodgers: 45 TDs 502 Att TD per Att = TD/A =Z
45/502=.0897 If we take Z*A we get TD
.0897 * 657 = 58.93
thanks professor...but we both know it doesn't work that way
Posted on 1/1/12 at 9:21 pm to SLTiger29
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So Flynn is better than Daniels, glad we cleared that up
No.
Packers - Rodgers >>>>>>>> Saints - Brees.
Agreed.
Posted on 1/1/12 at 9:22 pm to Breesus
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Breesus
I stand corrected (from whatever thread it was on) about the Packers' record, not stats, being better than the Saints.
I would also like this question answered: How many TEs on Aaron Rodgers team broke the single season receiving yards record for a TE? Also, did Rodgers contribute to one of his teammates setting the single season all purpose yards record? How bout the Pack as a whole, did they set all time team records for passing and total offensive yards?
Brees makes everyone around him, including his defense, better. Rodgers seems like a good dude and is a very good qb, but Brees is just that much better.
This post was edited on 1/1/12 at 9:26 pm
Posted on 1/1/12 at 9:23 pm to SLTiger29
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Because the temp agency sent in someone who produced more units in one day than AR did in any game all year. Yards, too.
Or because they had achieved the company goal for the year in 1 fewer game.
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No.
Packers - Rodgers >>>>>>>> Saints - Brees
Maybe that's because Flynn is better than Daniel and or GB > NO.
Unless you think any other QB could do what Rodgers/Flynn did in which case IQ of a box of rocks > IQ of SLTiger29
Posted on 1/1/12 at 9:23 pm to Breesus
Hopefully Saints fans can flood all media outlets with the OP's stats so they get off the Rodgers MVP lock.
Posted on 1/1/12 at 9:24 pm to shel311
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shel311
I'm not going to respond to your comments individually.
I don't like you.
he doesnt like you either
Posted on 1/1/12 at 9:25 pm to Breesus
So does the fact that 2 other QBs threw for 5,000 yards (with others knocking on its door) diminish Brees's yardage record? I'd say so, particularly when considering the number of attempts Brees had.
Posted on 1/1/12 at 9:25 pm to H-Town Tiger
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H-Town Tiger
My last post goes double for you
Posted on 1/1/12 at 9:27 pm to lawball29
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So does the fact that 2 other QBs threw for 5,000 yards (with others knocking on its door) diminish Brees's yardage record? I'd say so, particularly when considering the number of attempts Brees had.
Completiton percentage record, also.
Posted on 1/1/12 at 9:29 pm to shel311
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shel311
Haven't seen you on here in a while,
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Not to mention, the guy who did it in 15 days actually produced 48 units, to the guy who produced 47 in 16 days.
So the one guy produced more units in less days
Excellent point. I really don't get why so many Saints fans are so insecure about this MVP. Both Rodgers and Brees have a great case for MVP, to say one winning is a crime is pure idiocy. Brees season will go down in the record books whether he wins the MVP or not and who wins the award will have no bearing on a potential playoff match up or any future accolades like the Hall of Fame.
Posted on 1/1/12 at 9:31 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Maybe that's because Flynn is better than Daniel and or GB > NO
Or maybe it's because Drew Brees means more to his team's 13 wins than Aaron Rodgers does to his team's 15
You wanted to hock your bullshite algebra equation about if Rodgers had thrown as many passes as Brees how astronomical his numbers would have been. Well, I've got another equation for you.
Take Flynn's numbers from today, multiply them by 16. Then take Daniel's numbers from today, mulitply them by 16. Then form a hypothesis of which team you believe would have done better with each back up as a full time starter.
This post was edited on 1/1/12 at 9:36 pm
Posted on 1/1/12 at 9:31 pm to LSUFreek
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All these supposed Saints fans sucking Rodgers dick can frick off. No one has had a year like Brees in the history of the NFL.
No shite.
It's baffling that some Saints fans still believe that Rodgers deserves the MVP over Brees. Especially after what Drew has done these last 2 weeks.
All I keep hearing is that Rodgers deserves it. Well so does Drew!
This is the 2nd fricking time he has passed for 5000+ yards for Christ sakes. Add to that 46 TDs and a13-3 record.... It should be Brees' case closed, but Rodgers only has 6 ints and one loss whoopdy freeeking do.
This post was edited on 1/1/12 at 9:32 pm
Posted on 1/1/12 at 9:31 pm to Breesus
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My last post goes double for you
Good, I would rather have intelligent discussions with qualiy posters like shel311 that aren't blind homers.
Posted on 1/1/12 at 9:33 pm to SLTiger29
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I would also like this question answered: How many TEs on Aaron Rodgers team broke the single season receiving yards record for a TE? Also, did Rodgers contribute to one of his teammates setting the single season all purpose yards record? How bout the Pack as a whole, did they set all time team records for passing and total offensive yards?
Brees makes everyone around him, including his defense, better. Rodgers seems like a good dude and is a very good qb, but Brees is just that much better.
The other records are nice but don't mean anything.
You are hopelessly biased if you think Rodgers is not a great QB. You prefer Brees, great, so do I he's "our" QB, but to deny Rodgers greatness is simply ignorant.
Brees has a case for MVP, so does Rodgers.
Posted on 1/1/12 at 9:34 pm to Mouth
MVP stands for most valuable player. Not player whos team hass a better record. Brees is the most valuable player to his team. The saints would be lost without him. The packers however, would not be lost without Rodgers. Brees is an amazing QB shattering records and putting up godly numbers. Better numbers i might add than Aaron rodgers (unless you multiply rodgers numbers or w/e bullshite someone (h-town) said earlier)
Drew is the Most Valuable Player.
Drew is the Most Valuable Player.
Posted on 1/1/12 at 9:36 pm to H-Town Tiger
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You are hopelessly biased if you think Rodgers is not a great QB
Its not that Rodgers isnt a great QB. Brady is also a great QB. This season however Brees is better. Actually the best. and most deserving of the MVP award
Posted on 1/1/12 at 9:40 pm to H-Town Tiger
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The other records are nice but don't mean anything.
This is objective. I could very easily argue that NO record or stats mean anything except for a season's win-loss total and everything else is just decoration.
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but to deny Rodgers greatness is simply ignorant.
Have I ever said that? No, of course not. But Drew Brees had a better individually statistical season as a passer, and on a 13 win team, no less. That is not a matte of opinion, that is a matter of fact.
Posted on 1/1/12 at 9:46 pm to lawball29
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So does the fact that 2 other QBs threw for 5,000 yards (with others knocking on its door) diminish Brees's yardage record? I'd say so, particularly when considering the number of attempts Brees had.
Lol
He threw that much bc he can... not bc he has too.
Posted on 1/1/12 at 9:50 pm to SLTiger29
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Or maybe it's because Drew Brees means more to his team's 13 wins than Aaron Rodgers does to him.
That may or may not be true, but even if it is, it doesn't mean Brees is better.
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ou wanted to hock your bullshite algebra equation about if Rodgers had thrown as many passes as Brees how astronomical his numbers would have been. Well, I've got another equation for you.
Take Flynn's numbers from today, multiply them by 16. Then take Daniel's numbers from today, mulitply them by 16
Sorry you are so ignorant in the ways of basic math, but 1 game is not a statistically significant sample size and 3 attempts is meaningless. Brees and Rodgers both played a full seasons, with over 500 attempts so those comparisons are valid.
Rodgers would not have 6000 yds if he threw 657 passes most likely, but the fact that he had better yds/att and 1 fewer TD in 155 fewer passes shows he was actually more effective, though both clearly had incredible all time great seasons (to use an analogy, 38D's are bigger than 36D's, but both are huge)
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