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re: Sean Payton, Mickey Loomis lay out vision for Saints draft class

Posted on 5/3/21 at 7:11 pm to
Posted by Melvin
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 5/3/21 at 7:11 pm to
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I think this pick kind of tellls you what they think about Baun
I never really understood the pick because it seems like such a bad fit in terms of scheme. It was almost like they wanted to pick a LB and he was the highest rated left on the board so they went with him regardless of the fit and just hoped he could adapt. I guess it’s not completely outrageous to think it’d be possible but just seems like a risky move.
Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
Member since Apr 2008
28890 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 8:01 pm to
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As opposed to???

Wtf else would he play?



Some college QBs with his athletic ability have been converted to receiver
Posted by obdobd918
Member since Jun 2020
3228 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 8:31 pm to

My take is that they are saying they drafted uninjured, "obviously" talented, and "smart" players.
Seems more like justification for over reaching for certain players. Maybe they will become starters, but it seems doubtful. These players could be home runs or not even make the roster this year.
Maybe all of this uncertainty is because it was a COVID draft. In the past there was more hope that the higher picks would definitely make the roster, not this year.
The Corner could make the roster because the Saints don't have enough, and they don't have any money to bring in a decent corner.
IF this draft does not turn out well at least the Saints will have high draft picks next year. They did not trade them away. Maybe a good QB will be available in the first for them, and things turn around for the 2022-2023 season.
This draft combined with losing Drew, I would consider an 8 win season as a success this year.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
8717 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 9:23 pm to
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Not sure why we did not sign Jackrabbit for that same contract with an added voidable year or two.


Richard Sherman is not getting 7 million a year at this stage of free agency. AJ Bouye is probably better at this point and he hurried up and signed right before the draft and only got 3.5 a year.
Posted by Mpd31
Member since Nov 2019
2886 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 9:32 pm to
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I never really understood the pick because it seems like such a bad fit in terms of scheme. It was almost like they wanted to pick a LB and he was the highest rated left on the board so they went with him regardless of the fit and just hoped he could adapt. I guess it’s not completely outrageous to think it’d be possible but just seems like a risky move.


Baun was a guy they liked and targeted. We tried to sign Jamie Collins the same offseason. They were looking for a versatile linebacker that could play the 4-3 but also had serious pass rush ability for dialing up blitzes. Baun seemed to have that skill set. I don’t think they have completely gave up on Baun but wasn’t leaving the position up to chance on him taking a big step forward next year. Regardless we still needed another capable linebacker at the position.
Posted by bonethug0180
Avondale
Member since Jul 2018
4349 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 4:35 am to
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Davis is more Sam and Baun is also Will correct?


Backwards.

We rarely use a Sam and they are basically in there to play the run.

Will is more of a freelance position and that's where Davis excels. He can play Mike also but it limits his impact. That's why getting Kwon was huge for us last year as it let Davis roam more.
Posted by bonethug0180
Avondale
Member since Jul 2018
4349 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 4:39 am to
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They see Baun as a Mike


When they drafted him they specifically said he'd start at Sam and they'd try him out at Mike. Also said he has flexibility to move to end on rush downs.

Baun definitely is not a Will linebacker and I've never seen that mentioned by the Saints. He hasn't proven to be good enough in coverage to play that spot, much less Mike at this point. He's a run down or pass rush specialist at this point.
This post was edited on 5/4/21 at 4:45 am
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