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Sean Payton, Mickey Loomis lay out vision for Saints draft class
Posted on 5/3/21 at 4:08 pm
Posted on 5/3/21 at 4:08 pm
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When the New Orleans Saints are on the clock for the NFL draft, they're re-analyzing dozens of pieces of information about prospects.
But this year, there was one question that some teams had a hard time answering: Do his medicals check out?
With no NFL combine evaluations, the potential for a larger-than-normal gamble was on the table. But the Saints played it relatively safe as it pertained to the medicals of their six-person draft class.
"Medically, this is a class that is clean," coach Sean Payton said after the draft, "obviously, we feel like they are talented. I like the fact that each one of these picks are prototyped relative to their position. I like the fact that we feel like it's a smart class, relative to what we're going to ask them to do."
What are they going to be asked to do? Payton and general manager Mickey Loomis ran through their immediate visions.
Payton said he sees Houston defensive end Payton Turner as a lengthy defensive end who can play at the end on either side.
Ohio State linebacker Pete Werner has position flexibility, too, Payton said. They envision him, at least for now, as someone who can play at will or mike linebacker, but they'll be starting him out at will.
Stanford cornerback Paulson Adebo is going to work as an outside cornerback on the left side — which is what was projected since that's where the hole in the roster is.
"I don't know that I would say we're set (at the cornerback position), but this is a player that's going to come in and compete and develop," Loomis said of Adebo. "I think he does need some development."
Notre Dame quarterback Ian Book is going to stay at quarterback, Payton said.
The Saints feel that Kentucky tackle Landon Young will be best at tackle, and will start out at left tackle, though, "he's smart enough to play both," Payton said.
Payton said South Alabama receiver Kawaan Baker has some position flex, considering he has lined up at multiple positions, but he'll start working on the outside first once rookie minicamps roll around.
"The key is getting them in the building and getting enough good football players in the building," Payton said. "And then the rest of it begins to sort itself out and you look back three years from now and you really get a chance to evaluate your class. I've said that before. So that's kind of the approach we took."
With the draft squarely in the rearview mirror, the Saints aren't done filling out the roster. The Saints added six draft picks and 11 undrafted free agents into the fold, putting the roster at 79 players as New Orleans heads into the spring — 11 fewer than the NFL-mandated maximum of 90 players.
One position to watch the Saints make moves at is the cornerback position. Even though the Saints drafted Stanford cornerback Paulson Adebo in the third round, New Orleans still could use more depth there. Ahead of the draft, the Saints only had four cornerbacks on the roster: Pro Bowler Marshon Lattimore, 33-year-old veteran Patrick Robinson, Grant Haley and P.J. Williams.
"I would not say we are definitely going to, but I would not also discount that we might look to sign another player," Payton said regarding the cornerback position. "We didn't fill up every spot in free agency with the undrafted players because there's still a grade that we're looking to sign. We'll have enough, clearly we'll have enough, wiggle room as most teams will heading into spring."
Five-time All-Pro cornerback Richard Sherman remains on the market, and he has said the Saints have engaged with him. Though, the Saints' salary cap situation looms large over any potential signing of that magnitude. Sherman — even at the age of 33 — would likely command a salary of at least $7 million. As of Monday, the Saints only have $529,494 in available cap space.
When the New Orleans Saints are on the clock for the NFL draft, they're re-analyzing dozens of pieces of information about prospects.
But this year, there was one question that some teams had a hard time answering: Do his medicals check out?
With no NFL combine evaluations, the potential for a larger-than-normal gamble was on the table. But the Saints played it relatively safe as it pertained to the medicals of their six-person draft class.
"Medically, this is a class that is clean," coach Sean Payton said after the draft, "obviously, we feel like they are talented. I like the fact that each one of these picks are prototyped relative to their position. I like the fact that we feel like it's a smart class, relative to what we're going to ask them to do."
What are they going to be asked to do? Payton and general manager Mickey Loomis ran through their immediate visions.
Payton said he sees Houston defensive end Payton Turner as a lengthy defensive end who can play at the end on either side.
Ohio State linebacker Pete Werner has position flexibility, too, Payton said. They envision him, at least for now, as someone who can play at will or mike linebacker, but they'll be starting him out at will.
Stanford cornerback Paulson Adebo is going to work as an outside cornerback on the left side — which is what was projected since that's where the hole in the roster is.
"I don't know that I would say we're set (at the cornerback position), but this is a player that's going to come in and compete and develop," Loomis said of Adebo. "I think he does need some development."
Notre Dame quarterback Ian Book is going to stay at quarterback, Payton said.
The Saints feel that Kentucky tackle Landon Young will be best at tackle, and will start out at left tackle, though, "he's smart enough to play both," Payton said.
Payton said South Alabama receiver Kawaan Baker has some position flex, considering he has lined up at multiple positions, but he'll start working on the outside first once rookie minicamps roll around.
"The key is getting them in the building and getting enough good football players in the building," Payton said. "And then the rest of it begins to sort itself out and you look back three years from now and you really get a chance to evaluate your class. I've said that before. So that's kind of the approach we took."
With the draft squarely in the rearview mirror, the Saints aren't done filling out the roster. The Saints added six draft picks and 11 undrafted free agents into the fold, putting the roster at 79 players as New Orleans heads into the spring — 11 fewer than the NFL-mandated maximum of 90 players.
One position to watch the Saints make moves at is the cornerback position. Even though the Saints drafted Stanford cornerback Paulson Adebo in the third round, New Orleans still could use more depth there. Ahead of the draft, the Saints only had four cornerbacks on the roster: Pro Bowler Marshon Lattimore, 33-year-old veteran Patrick Robinson, Grant Haley and P.J. Williams.
"I would not say we are definitely going to, but I would not also discount that we might look to sign another player," Payton said regarding the cornerback position. "We didn't fill up every spot in free agency with the undrafted players because there's still a grade that we're looking to sign. We'll have enough, clearly we'll have enough, wiggle room as most teams will heading into spring."
Five-time All-Pro cornerback Richard Sherman remains on the market, and he has said the Saints have engaged with him. Though, the Saints' salary cap situation looms large over any potential signing of that magnitude. Sherman — even at the age of 33 — would likely command a salary of at least $7 million. As of Monday, the Saints only have $529,494 in available cap space.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 4:12 pm to GMoney2600
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would likely command a salary of at least $7 million. As of Monday, the Saints only have $529,494 in available cap space.
I don't want to push any more fake cap into future year's numbers.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 4:15 pm to GMoney2600
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Ohio State linebacker Pete Werner has position flexibility, too, Payton said. They envision him, at least for now, as someone who can play at will or mike linebacker, but they'll be starting him out at will.
This surprises me. I was thinking mike or Sam all the way.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 4:16 pm to Chad504boy
7M...might as well have kept Jenkins at that price. No way that happens.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 4:17 pm to GMoney2600
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But this year, there was one question that some teams had a hard time answering: Do his medicals check out?
I thought one of the questions about Turner was his inability to stay healthy, no?
Posted on 5/3/21 at 4:19 pm to GMoney2600
quote:That is ridiculous. We could have kept Jackrabbit for that.
Five-time All-Pro cornerback Richard Sherman remains on the market, and he has said the Saints have engaged with him. Though, the Saints' salary cap situation looms large over any potential signing of that magnitude. Sherman — even at the age of 33 — would likely command a salary of at least $7 million. As of Monday, the Saints only have $529,494 in available cap space.
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Not sure why we did not sign Jackrabbit for that same contract with an added voidable year or two.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 4:40 pm to moneyg
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I thought one of the questions about Turner was his inability to stay healthy, no?
I don't think so. If I remember correctly from what was posted that night, he missed 3 games in his college career because of injury. Also missed a few because of covid last year but I'm not counting that.
He had a knee injury in high school, but the injuries that caused him to miss those 3 games in college were hand & foot injuries.
If I'm misremembering, I'm sure someone will correct me.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 4:43 pm to Vacherie Saint
So who’s the Mike LB on this team if Werner is going to play at Will?
Davis is more Sam and Baun is also Will correct?
Davis is more Sam and Baun is also Will correct?
Posted on 5/3/21 at 4:48 pm to Vacherie Saint
You don't draft a sam linebacker in the 2nd round.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 4:51 pm to Doug_H
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So who’s the Mike LB on this team if Werner is going to play at Will?
Davis is more Sam and Baun is also Will correct?
Davis will probably play mike. Maybe they try baun at mike and davis at will with werner mixing in.
My guess is it will probably be davis and werner as your starters. Baun at sam.
Will be very interesting to see what they do with baun.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 4:51 pm to Doug_H
I think this pick kind of tellls you what they think about Baun
Posted on 5/3/21 at 5:01 pm to GMoney2600
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"I don't know that I would say we're set (at the cornerback position)
Is this where the Richard Sherman/Kris Richard reunion rumors begin?
Posted on 5/3/21 at 5:10 pm to LSUFreek
No, they talked to sherman.
I don't think he signs with the saints unless he comes really cheap.
My guess is it will be another corner
I don't think he signs with the saints unless he comes really cheap.
My guess is it will be another corner
Posted on 5/3/21 at 5:18 pm to Chalkywhite84
Agreed. I was thinking he'd be the Mike and if he cant beat Baun out for Mike, he'd go to Sam. ESPN has him penciled in as our starting Mike already. LOL
I just didnt see DeMario moving to Mike again, but who knows? He was Mike in NY and was absolutely filthy there. We are also in 2 linebacker looks so often, I doubt it really matters.
I just didnt see DeMario moving to Mike again, but who knows? He was Mike in NY and was absolutely filthy there. We are also in 2 linebacker looks so often, I doubt it really matters.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 5:23 pm to Doug_H
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Davis is more Sam and Baun is also Will correct?
They see Baun as a Mike
Posted on 5/3/21 at 5:43 pm to Hester Carries
has the staff said this? its kind of a shock to read because his Wisconsin highlight tape is almost exclusively him playing stand up olb in their 3-4. He had something like 12 sacks his last season there.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 5:47 pm to Lester Earl
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I think this pick kind of tellls you what they think about Baun
You're getting some downvotes, but I agree with you. I think they are trying to play Baun in the wrong position and make him a traditional linebacker when he needs to be rushing the passer.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 6:55 pm to GMoney2600
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Five-time All-Pro cornerback Richard Sherman remains on the market, and he has said the Saints have engaged with him. Though, the Saints' salary cap situation looms large over any potential signing of that magnitude. Sherman — even at the age of 33 — would likely command a salary of at least $7 million. As of Monday, the Saints only have $529,494 in available cap space.
thats unpossible, lots of ST gurus here keep saying he is worth any price because he is the best to ever play the game ever.
to them it doesnt matter if he is old and slow and no longer any good. and they ignore that is why he isnt on a team now, they keep telling me he is still the same guy he was 10 years ago
This post was edited on 5/3/21 at 6:56 pm
Posted on 5/3/21 at 7:00 pm to GMoney2600
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Notre Dame quarterback Ian Book is going to stay at quarterback, Payton said.
As opposed to???
Wtf else would he play?
Posted on 5/3/21 at 7:03 pm to Vacherie Saint
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has the staff said this?
Yes. Nick Underhill has said it many times as well
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