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tzimme4
Chicago Cubs Fan
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
28246 posts

Saints Luckiest Team in the NFL?

They lost 4 games this season on the final drive by a FG or less.

They're currently 4-5 and yet are the #4 seed in the NFC and control their own destiny.

They lose two RBs for a few more weeks but find the running game most fans have given up on from Ingram in the process. Plus, they're 1 of 7 NFC Teams with a plus point differential.

How can they not be the luckiest team so far in the NFL? For eveything that's gone wrong I'd say their pretty damn lucky to be in the position they are in currently
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D011ahbi11
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re: Saints Luckiest Team in the NFL?
I'd argue they're the unluckiest


tzimme4
Chicago Cubs Fan
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Member since Jan 2008
28246 posts

re: Saints Luckiest Team in the NFL?
If they're the unluckiest then how are they in the position they're in?
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21JumpStreet
Texas Tech Fan
Member since Jul 2012
14595 posts

re: Saints Luckiest Team in the NFL?
Unluckiest. 9 points from being 7-1
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D011ahbi11
US Air Force Fan
Member since Jun 2007
13612 posts

re: Saints Luckiest Team in the NFL?
Kenpom, a site with advanced analysis of college basketball has a stat that determines how lucky a team is. It's
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A measure of the deviation between a team’s actual winning percentage and what one would expect from its game-by-game efficiencies. It’s a Dean Oliver invention. Essentially, a team involved in a lot of close games should not win (or lose) all of them. Those that do will be viewed as lucky (or unlucky).

The saints have been involved in 4 close games and only won 1 of them. 3 Overtime games and only won 1. that's pretty unlucky. If they had a stat like this for the NFL, saints would be at or near the top
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tzimme4
Chicago Cubs Fan
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
28246 posts

re: Saints Luckiest Team in the NFL?
Any other season with those outcomes the Saints would be eliminated by now. Seeing how bad the division is this year i'd imagine being 4-5 or 8-1 you're still 1st place in the NFC South regardless of seed.


htran90
New Orleans Saints Fan
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Member since Dec 2012
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re: Saints Luckiest Team in the NFL?
uh...
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They lose two RBs for a few more weeks but find the running game most fans have given up on from Ingram in the process. Plus, they're 1 of 7 NFC Teams with a plus point differential.



makes no sense when Ingram was clearly the best RB they had since the Dallas game. Most casual fans gave up on Ingram, but if people actually stopped being biased, he's played exceptionally well since mid-last year.


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tigersaint14
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re: Saints Luckiest Team in the NFL?
They're the luckiest and unluckiest if that is possible


D011ahbi11
US Air Force Fan
Member since Jun 2007
13612 posts

re: Saints Luckiest Team in the NFL?
Nobody would be eliminated with 5 losses.

I won't deny we're lucky that the division sucks, but we've had no luck on the field.


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wayne5w
New Orleans Saints Fan
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Member since Aug 2014
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re: Saints Luckiest Team in the NFL?
I don't see any luck, other than being in the toilet division along with 3 pathetic excuses for football teams.


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goatmilker
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re: Saints Luckiest Team in the NFL?
Yea

Luck is just what describes this whole season.

Luck.


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KindaRaw
New Orleans Saints Fan
Member since Jun 2014
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re: Saints Luckiest Team in the NFL?
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They're the luckiest and unluckiest if that is possible
My thoughts exactly.


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SammyTiger
LSU Fan
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Member since Feb 2009
65553 posts

re: Saints Luckiest Team in the NFL?
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They lost 4 games this season on the final drive by a FG or less.


seemes unlucky

could be 8-1


whodat22
Member since Sep 2014
863 posts

re: Saints Luckiest Team in the NFL?
Carolina and Atlanta could be considered lucky by this logic. 3 wins each deep into the season and yet can still win the division


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Mephistopheles
Iowa Fan
Member since Aug 2007
8313 posts

re: Saints Luckiest Team in the NFL?
Based on DVOA wins projections, The Saints play is consistent with 5.2 wins.

Their schedule is rated as the 19th hardest thus far. The rest of the season they have the 31st ranked schedule strength.

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ESTIMATED WINS uses a statistic known as "Forest Index" that emphasizes consistency as well as DVOA in the most important specific situations: red zone defense, first quarter offense, and performance in the second half when the score is close. It then projects a number of wins adjusted to a league-average schedule and a league-average rate of recovering fumbles. Teams that have had their bye week are projected as if they had played one game per week


https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teameff


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Pectus
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re: Saints Luckiest Team in the NFL?
So we're like Detroit?


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SEClint
New Orleans Saints Fan
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Member since Nov 2006
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re: Saints Luckiest Team in the NFL?
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They lost 4 games this season on the final drive by a FG or less.



Unlucky.


Big V 97
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re: Saints Luckiest Team in the NFL?
There is alot of cases were I would rather be lucky than good.


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Geaux8686
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re: Saints Luckiest Team in the NFL?
You are young.

The first 25 years, the Saints were the unluckiest team in the entire league.


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Nissanmaxima
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re: Saints Luckiest Team in the NFL?
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I'd argue they're the unluckiest


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