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Posted on 10/7/08 at 11:45 am to Paul Allen
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He was drafted as a RB, not a WR, he is a bust.
putting a label on bush is fricking silly.
Posted on 10/7/08 at 11:46 am to el tigre
what would kevin faulk had done if he had an offense built around his receiving and shiftiness?
Posted on 10/7/08 at 11:47 am to SlowFlowPro
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they account for him differently than normal RBs. that's all they're saying
on the opposite end of that logic, they don't even account for him as a normal RB anymore
no, thats not all they're saying.
and who cares what the label is?
Posted on 10/7/08 at 11:48 am to PortCityTiger24
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reggie isn't good because he doesn't play like a fullback.
Posted on 10/7/08 at 11:48 am to rmcc316
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and who cares what the label is?
well the saints and NFL, for one
that's why reggie couldn't be listed at WR or QB and wear #5
he lines up as a RB pretty much every play. he performs the job of a RB. i don't see why he's not labeled a RB
Posted on 10/7/08 at 11:48 am to Doc Feelgood
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As a everydown RUNNING BACK, Reggie Bush is a bust.
agreed. fortunatley, that's not his role.
Posted on 10/7/08 at 11:49 am to el tigre
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one big return game is skewing your view of Bush. Also, bush being a stud in a PPR fantasy does not mean he is a stud in real life. He still is only getting about 3.5 yards per rush and about 7 yards per catch for his career. Even with the million short passes he gets, he has still never finished in the top 5 in yards from scrimmage. that's not impressive.
no it's not and i never once mentioned fantasy sports.
Posted on 10/7/08 at 11:51 am to el tigre
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I just looked. Bush reminds me of a Dave Meggett. Meggett actually averaged more yards per touch than Bush on rushes, receptions, kick returns, and until last night punt returns.
megget was never the centerpiece of the giants offense. defenses never schemed to take megget out the game. big difference.
Posted on 10/7/08 at 11:52 am to rmcc316
when deuce was healthy he was the centerpiece of the offense (if we're not counting QBs)
Posted on 10/7/08 at 11:53 am to SlowFlowPro
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well the saints and NFL, for one
that's why reggie couldn't be listed at WR or QB and wear #5
thats rules and semantics. we're discussing reality and production. you can't compare reggie to other typical running backs because his game is totally different.
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he lines up as a RB pretty much every play. he performs the job of a RB. i don't see why he's not labeled a RB
irrelevant. he's still used completely different.
Posted on 10/7/08 at 11:56 am to SlowFlowPro
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when deuce was healthy he was the centerpiece of the offense (if we're not counting QBs)
deuce was an all pro caliber RB in his prime. reggie was a rookie. how many touches did each get that year?
Posted on 10/7/08 at 11:56 am to rmcc316
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he's still used completely different.
he's not
he runs a good deal (almost 13 times a game)
his routes are RB routes...swing passes, screens, 5 yard curls, etc. that's why his ypc is so low for a receiver
Posted on 10/7/08 at 11:57 am to SlowFlowPro
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he's not
/thread due delusions.
Posted on 10/7/08 at 11:58 am to rmcc316
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how many touches did each get that year?
deuce had 244 carries (in 15 games). reggie had about a hundred less (in 16 games)
it's not a coincidence that we haven't come close to that success since we had an ACTUAL running back
Posted on 10/7/08 at 11:58 am to rmcc316
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/thread due delusions.
explain how reggie is used differently than any other RB?
we just throw it to him more b/c he sucks as a runner
tell me what special routes he does
tell me what special blocking he does
tell me why he runs the ball so much if he's not a running back
tell me why he doesn't line up at WR more
This post was edited on 10/7/08 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 10/7/08 at 12:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
So RMCC, based on his yards per touch, fumbles, and his pre-NFL career hype and draft position do you feel that Bush has met or exceeded expectations?
Posted on 10/7/08 at 12:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
being over payed and being a "bust" are 2 separate thing.
most NFL players dont live up to the money they are paid. Does that mean they are bad players? no.
most NFL players dont live up to the money they are paid. Does that mean they are bad players? no.
Posted on 10/7/08 at 12:18 pm to Lester Earl
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being over payed and being a "bust" are 2 separate thing.
being a bust and being a disappointment are also 2 different things. Why do people assume you mean bust, if you are just saying he has been a disappointment?
Posted on 10/7/08 at 12:20 pm to el tigre
i dont know, i certainly dont htink he is a bust.
but my opinion changes week to week...he disappoints me sometimes, but i think you can say that about any player.
However, at his high points(ie Last night), it is hard to match by anyone
but my opinion changes week to week...he disappoints me sometimes, but i think you can say that about any player.
However, at his high points(ie Last night), it is hard to match by anyone
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