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re: Rafael Bush signs offer sheet with Falcons.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:13 pm to TigerBait2008
Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:13 pm to TigerBait2008
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We better not have screwed this one up by giving him the lowest tender. Falcons would get a legit starting safety and we don't get any compensation. This would be a kick in the nuts. Hopefully we can match.
this is to stupid for words...
Please explain...I have thick skin. You also called me stupid in a sentence that doesn't even make sense
This post was edited on 4/3/14 at 8:18 pm
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Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:15 pm to Lester Earl
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no one will prob agree because of the hype, but he was better than Vaccaro last year.
It's kind of hard to compare the two because Bush was playing mostly deep safety and Vaccaro was all over the place.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:19 pm to Lester Earl
quote:Better? I could see someone making a case but I disagree. More solid? Yeah I could see that. He was less up and down but Vaccaro had a big effect on a lot of games whereas Bush was playing a role.
better than Vaccaro
Now given equal playing time maybe that could have changed.
Also I came back in here to vent more about the horrible decision not to use the 2nd round tender because I just rechecked the amounts.
For a mere $750,000 more we could have used the 2nd round tender. AAARRARRRGGGHHHHH!
Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:36 pm to Lester Earl
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no one will prob agree because of the hype, but he was better than Vaccaro last year
Lolz. KV was asked to do a lot on defense last season and shined.
This post was edited on 4/3/14 at 8:39 pm
Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:38 pm to bonethug0108
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For a mere $750,000 more we could have used the 2nd round tender. AAARRARRRGGGHHHHH!
The dice don't always come up a winner! I'm with you, this was a major screw up. Our starting Safeties are in the Top 10, but you have to have depth. Even more so than depth, having Bush could allow Ryan to come up schemes that would be deadly...especially on definite passing plays.
Hope there are no poison pills and we match whatever the terms the Shitbirds offered.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:40 pm to bonethug0108
quote:What did we do instead?
For a mere $750,000 more we could have used the 2nd round tender. AAARRARRRGGGHHHHH!
Did we use it on someone else?
Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:40 pm to TigerBait1127
Guess this explains the Falcons tweet a couple days ago of "Big things happening. Stay tuned".
Definitely a thumb in the eye by Dimitroff. Either take depth from a rival or force more creative accounting for down the line.
Definitely a thumb in the eye by Dimitroff. Either take depth from a rival or force more creative accounting for down the line.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:44 pm to TigerBait1127
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Lolz. KV was asked to do a lot on defense last season and shined.
The way he throws his body around, you want depth.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:45 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
quote:Yeah, but we just hired Ball.
The way he throws his body around, you want depth.
And I guess we'll find someone else if Bush falls through.
But this does suck.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:48 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
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Definitely a thumb in the eye by Dimitroff. Either take depth from a rival or force more creative accounting for down the line.
Any advantage they may have by doing this ends this year, the Falcons are in a shite load of trouble next season. There are major contracts that they'll have to deal with all over the teams...not the least of which will be J. Jones.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:48 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
Keeping him wouldn't be an issue if they want to. There are a number of ways to make room for him.
He's a good player. He's not a ball hawk, but he's good in coverage and a good tackler/hitter.
He's a good player. He's not a ball hawk, but he's good in coverage and a good tackler/hitter.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:50 pm to Hoodoo Man
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Yeah, but we just hired Ball.
That helps, but for 1 million more, the #11 safety would be all but essentially locked up as a backup. Ball may pan out, but I don't see how it's a better deal for a million dollar safety net versus a CFL guy.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:51 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
You're tossing around that bleacher report ranking like gospel. 
He is a nice player though.
He is a nice player though.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:52 pm to adono
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the Falcons are in a shite load of trouble next season. There are major contracts that they'll have to deal with all over the teams...not the least of which will be J. Jones.
That's not true at all. While JJ will be a hit, the way the contracts are structured, the Falcons have plenty of room to move. What Dimitroff does with it is a different discussion though.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:54 pm to Patrick O Rly
frick it...rank him what you want. You think Ball is more safe than Bush?
Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:54 pm to Hoodoo Man
quote:I don't think we've dipped below the $1m mark at any point, so no. I think we've always had the room to do it but decided it was worth the risk to pinch the pennies.
What did we do instead?
Did we use it on someone else?
I bitched about it when news first broke and said that this was a real possibility and that I hoped it didn't come back to bite us.
Well.... frick.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:59 pm to Patrick O Rly
quote:Right. The question is how much room and are we willing to go there for a 3rd safety. At best he plays about 50% of the snaps again, but he does have added value because of special teams.
Keeping him wouldn't be an issue if they want to. There are a number of ways to make room for him.
The point was that we risked saving $750,000 vs. maybe paying a whole lot more or losing a good player. I just hated the decision from jump.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:59 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
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frick it...rank him what you want. You think Ball is more safe than Bush?
No, absolutely not. Ball is most likely really cheap (I haven't seen the numbers), and would most likely be signed for depth whether Bush signed an offer sheet or not.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 8:59 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
quote:Come on.
That helps, but for 1 million more, the #11 safety would be all but essentially locked up as a backup.
But he is highly underrated.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 9:05 pm to adono
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Any advantage they may have by doing this ends this year, the Falcons are in a shite load of trouble next season. There are major contracts that they'll have to deal with all over the teams...not the least of which will be J. Jones.
Yeah, this isn't true at all. The real huge contact is Julio, but next year we can start getting out of some contracts we overpaid on.
We will be in a good situation next offseason.
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