Peter King clip on "golden age" of CFB WRs, 2022 NFL QB carousel and his take on CSP.

Then had piss poor WRs and three 14 tds to 3 int and has a winning record. People change and grow. The Winston we see now is not the same one we saw in Tampa. Is he the savior? No prob not. But to compare to Ramos time is apples and oranges also.

And he threw 88 TDS v 58 INts in the 4 years before Arians. So the question is, is it Winston or Winston w Arians. His time w the Saints appears he just May have been a bad fit Arians offense. Probably not the guy you want running the team for the next 10+ years, but not a bad option until you find that guy.

I’d rather have an above average QB w a stout running game and defense while building through the draft, then becoming one of those teams that is in a constant QB hell trying to force the latest combine hype

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Love the excuses that get made for this guy. He's a poor decision maker, inconsistent, and a turnover machine. You're banking on "GrOwTh" from a guy who's entering his 8th season. C'mon. He very clearly is he who he is.

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Payton had Winston doing what he wasn't doing at Tampa Bay. That is limiting his turnovers and operating the Offense. He wasn't great but when he went down he had a Q.B. rating of 103 and 14 tds with only 3 int. This with an assortment of key missing and injured players and the worst crew of receivers in the league with numerous dropped balls. You are leaving out a cold hard reality. This is a very limited draft for QBs, a limited number of good free agent QBs and we have limited assets to pony up without breaking the Bank. Next year's draft looks much better for QBs. If you don't like this reality what is your solution?

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Jameis threw for 9 TD against 2 of the league's worst pass defenses

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One of those defenses your talking about finished as the 6th ranked pass defenses for the season. And that’s with the horrible game against the Saints. So your point is invalid from the get go.

How much will he regress since SP is no longer head coach.
SP knew what plays to call for him, and certainly coached him out of certain bad throws.
I hope JW gets better, but it depends on who can coach him on the Saints staff.

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Jameis had Mike Evans and Chris Godwin and put up one of the most embarrassing seasons ever. It's not the lack of receivers. It's Jameis.

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You’re so misinformed it’s hilarious lmao. “Most embarrassing season ever”…not even top 10 all time in picks, also had 5000 yards and 30 TDs which no one else on the top pick seasons even comes close to. Peyton Manning and Favre have seasons right next to Jameis on the all time list for most picks.

We all know why you hate Jameis. Just say it.

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is it Winston or Winston w Arians. His time w the Saints appears he just May have been a bad fit Arians offense

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It’s Arians. Every QB he’s ever had has had a career high in INTs under his tutelage, save Brady, and that’s because after game 11, Brady took command of the offense. Before then, he was on his way to a career high in INTs.