re: Other than passing yards, what make Brees an "Elite QB"

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if he truly is the superstar as we perceive him to be shouldn't he have done more this season. Yeah the defense sucks but Brady and Rodgers both were able to overcome their terrible defenses last season. Rodgers also dealt with numerous o line injuries in his Super Bowl run.

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dude frick you. He lost his HC, Off. coord, mentor, and friend on the sidelines. No other QB ever had to deal with that. Fact. And he is performing very well. He can't help the plays given him, the oline play, dropped balls, lack of a running game, etc...
Specifically, what more do you want him to do?

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But would you rather not have Drew Brees?

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I worry that if things keep going the way they seem to be heading we will not have drew brees -

and then what..

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I worry that if things keep going the way they seem to be heading we will not have drew brees -

and then what..

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Like...you're going to kill him?

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Okay, no he's not.

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Okay maybe he's not. But he isn't playing horribly, and a lot of his problems this year aren't his fault.they are a mix of Kromer, little Petey, and the oline, specifically Strief. We handed the keys to Payton's Ferrari to his half retarded parapalygic friends, and now we get to watch them drive it.

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Like...you're going to kill him?

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no... opponents defenses manhandling our offensive line and having their way

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Hey, no one forced him to throw the ball directly to the Panthers last weekend. He has been trying to do too much

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I agree, and he did it again this week. Whenever drew got to amped up or too down on him self, Payton always went and talked to him and went over plays with him, and calmed him down. I haven't seen PCJr. Open his mouth to drew yet. Sideline presence and leadership. The lack there of this season is polluting every player and aspect of our team.

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this thread is not about drew brees skill as a QB - rather what makes him worth more than say a tom brady

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you dont understand basic economics or timing if you ask this question.

Your approach...

6× Pro Bowl (2004, 2006, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011)
4× All-Pro (2006, 2008, 2009, 2011)
Super Bowl champion (XLIV)
Super Bowl MVP (XLIV)
2× AP NFL Offensive Player of the Year (2008, 2011)
2× NFC MVP (2008, 2009)
3× NFC Offensive Player of the Year (2006, 2008, 2009)
4× FedEx Air Player of the Year Award (2006, 2008, 2009, 2011)
AP NFL Comeback Player of the Year Award (2004)
Bart Starr Man of the Year Award (2011)
AP Male Athlete of the Year (2010)
Sportsman of the Year (2010)
Bert Bell Award (2009)
All-time single season passing yard leader (5,476)
Fastest ever to reach 40,000 yards passing
Co-Walter Payton Man of the Year Award (2006)


TD–INT 281-146
Passing yards 40,742
QB Rating 94.0
Passing Attempts 5,479
Completions 3,613
Completion Percentage 65.9%

New Orleans Saints franchise recordsConsecutive games with at least 1 TD pass – 46 (2009–present) 2nd NFL all-time
Highest Comp. %, Career (Min. 500 attempts) – 65.94%
Highest Comp. %, Season (Min. 14 attempts/game) – 71.23% (2011) [29]
Highest YPA, Career (Min. 500 attempts) – 7.56 [29]
Highest YPA, Season (Min. 14 attempts/game) – 8.5 (2009) [29]
Highest Passer Rating, Career (Min. 500 attempts) – 93.8 [29]
Highest Passer Rating, Season (Min. 14 attempts/game) – 110.6 (2011) [29]
Most Completions, Career - 2,488 (2006-2011)
Most Completions, Season – 468 (2011) [29]
Most Completions, Game – 39 vs. Denver, 9/21/2008 [30]
Most Completions, Playoff Game - 40 at San Francisco, 1/14/2012
Most Consecutive Completions – 19 (12/27/09) [31]
Most Pass Attempts, Career - 3,670 (2006-2011)
Most Pass Attempts, Season – 658 (2010) [29]
Most Pass Attempts, Playoff Game - 63 at San Francisco, 1/14/2012
Highest yards per pass attempt in playoffs - 7.60
Most yards per game career in playoffs with Saints - 332.6 (8 games)
Most Pass Attempts, Game – 60 (tied with Aaron Brooks) [31]
Most passing attempts with least sacks per dropback - 31.6 (sacked 116 times in 3,670 pass attempts)
Most passing attempts in postseason with least sacks per dropback - 26.1 (sacked 15 times in 392 pass attempts)
Most yards per game career - 298.9 (2006-2011) 95 games
Most passing yards, Career - 28,394 (2006-2011)
Most games with 100.0-100.9 QB rating - 14
Most games with 110.0-119.9 QB rating - 13
Most games with 120.0-129.9 QB rating - 7
Most games with 130.0-139.9 QB rating - 5
Most games with 140.0-149.9 QB rating - 5
Most games with 150.0-158.3 QB rating - 3
Most passing yards in a single season – 5,476 yards (2011)
Most Passing Yards, Playoff Game - 466 vs. Detroit, 1/7/2012
Most Passing Yards, Game – 510 vs. Cincinnati, 11/19/2006 [31] (seventh highest in NFL history)
Most 4000 Yard Passing Seasons – 6 [29]
Most Consecutive 4000 Yard Passing Seasons – 6 (2006–11) [29]
Most Games w/300+ Yards Passing, Career - 50 (2006-2011)
Most Games w/300+ Yards Passing, Season – 13 (2011) [32]
Most Consecutive Games w/300+ Yards Passing – 7 (2011) [32]
Most Touchdown Passes, Career – 201 (2006-2011)
Most Touchdown Passes, Season – 46 (2011) [29]
Most Touchdown Passes, Playoff Game – 4 at San Francisco, 1/14/2012 (tied with Aaron Brooks)
2nd longest pass in NFC Championship Game History -(88 yd. pass to Reggie Bush-1/21/07) Saints Record
Second highest completion percentage in Superbowl - 82.1% (Superbowl XLIV)
Most Touchdown Passes, Game – 6 (9/13/2009) (tied with Billy Kilmer)
Most Touchdown Passes On Opening Day, 6 (2009)

When Sports Illustrated selected him for the 2010 Sportsman of the Year award, it said the award was "[f]or not only leading the New Orleans Saints to the first Super Bowl title in the franchise's history, but also for helping lead the city of New Orleans' rebirth after the tragedy of Hurricane Katrina".

Drew and Brittany’s Brees Dream Foundation announced a partnership[57][58] in 2007 with international children’s charity Operation Kids, to rebuild and restore and recreate academic and athletic facilities, parks and playgrounds, after-school programs, mentoring programs for the intellectually disabled, neighborhood revitalization projects and child care facilities in New Orleans.


Now why don't you just shut the hell up!!!

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doubleO7

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is coors light your favorite beer?